I see you want to stimulate a discussion on the topic we all heard to 
often - CF is dead.

How about .Net is dead? We could definitely argue that as well. It just 
leads to a pointless religious discussion - every language has its niche 
where it should be used. Some are equivalent (more or less) to others in 
certain areas. Sometimes it is just programmers preference as to syntax (all 
'languages' in .Net have same capabilities so choice is based on whatever 
you like curly brackets or not).

One needs to pick the right tool for the right job. For example, C is still 
great for writing stuff for embedded devices where memory size is still 
limited, as well as CPU power.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Sykora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-OT" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff?


> This was an interesting discussion piece to read. I made a blog post on 
> this
> article which detail my views
>
> http://www.mutantweb.net/
>
> To summarize, ColdFusion is great at doing some things, but is very poor 
> at
> doing others. I'm a bit biased because I've been a .NET Developer most of 
> my
> life and have just recently got into coldfusion. Is CF used as much as
> ..NET/PHP? Probably not, but by no means is ColdFusion a dead language. As
> long as Adobe supports it and developers are writing it, it will still be
> alive and kicking.
>
> --Ken
>
> On 5/26/07, Robert Rawlins - Think Blue 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> In all fairness,
>>
>> All the best programmers I've ever met have been self educated or
>> hobbyists
>> turned professional.
>>
>> I've never considered academic studies in any fast moving industry a
>> particularly good way to spend time, the curriculum is so out of date 
>> that
>> the skills you learn have no relevance to the current industry when you
>> finally graduate from the course. Short term or self study courses from
>> platform providers such as Adobe and Microsoft make fair sense to me as
>> the
>> skills learned are so focused and the skills are relevant and useful.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 25 May 2007 20:52
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff?
>>
>> On 5/25/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > But you'd never see an OS written in PHP or Ruby either. That
>> > > argument doesn't hold water.
>> >
>> > I don't think PHP would be a good choice for teaching basic 
>> > programming,
>> > either. Ruby would be suitable for that, on the other hand.
>>
>> For instance, http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_ltp/index.html
>> (Learning to Program, by Chris Pine, which happens to teach
>> programming using Ruby)
>>
>> Heck, MIT uses Scheme http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/projects/scheme/ to
>> teach programming, right? And if memory serves, in many(?) European
>> schools they use OCaml to teaching. Pascal used to be the one back in
>> my day, but I'm sure by now none of you care much about what I think
>> about programming :)
>>
>> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> > http://www.figleaf.com/
>> >
>> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
>> > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
>> > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
>> >
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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