I have a similar setup with dual Xeon 933's and a gig of memory and run
around 56,000 hits a day. No problems at all. Everything runs smooth as
pie and no extensive memory usage and/or CPU usage. SQL and CF coincide
wonderfully if you have a machine to handle it. I would not suggest putting
a mail server on the same machine though. Just thought I would throw that
out there since I have seen that in the past, and a mail server will hog a
machine much quicker than anything else!
CW
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:31 PM
To: CF-Server
Subject: RE: Hmmmm?
I recently put both sql server and cold fusion on the same server. I
used to have them on separate boxes, but I found that having both together
is working out much better than having them separate. Much faster, much
more stable (I also went from windows NT to Windows 2000) - and much
cheaper to co-locate:). Also - whenever the SQL server had to be rebooted,
it also basically stopped the web serve from working - as most of my pages
access the database. So there was 2 x as many chances of needing to reboot.
My new box has dual 1,000 mhz pentium IIIs and a gig of memory. It
has been about a month since it was booted, and the performance monitor
shows 250megs free ram, so ram isn't a problem.. CPU is at about
4%. There are 140 current users on right now..
Pages load much faster than under my old 2 computer system..
so - what I am saying is that possibly adding enough memory and
additional processor to 1 machine may be as good as having 2 boxes with the
same total amount of memory and processors. And memory is much cheaper
than an internet connection, and you only need one copy of windows 2000
advanced server.
At 10:58 AM 2/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> Actually, just like everything else, it depends on who is
> administering and
>writing the code for both. I've run over 50 websites that have over 100
>sessions a day each on one server running CF and SQL. It just depends on
>what your doing and what you need. If you write good DB Schema's and clean
>CF code, then you can handle a lot with both. I just wouldn't suggest
>putting 'Yahoo' on this setup. Again, limit SQL servers memory and you
>shouldn't have problems of memory sharing violations. But if your just
>launching a site or a couple of small sites, try it for a while before you
>say those words that annoy me to death "throw hardware at it". You can
save
>a lot of money in hardware by having coders that know what their doing,
>however you spend a lot of money paying these high end people:)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ralph Stark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:01 PM
>To: CF-Server
>Subject: RE: Hmmmm?
>
>
>According to an Allaire Certified Fast Track Trainer who I have spoken with
>about this issue you should not have you SQL Server and your Cold Fusion
>Server on the same box. It will work, but each service requires
>CPU cycles an memory.
>
> >From: "Kola Oyedeji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Hmmmm?
> >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:05:56 -0000
> >
> >Can i just ask is it recommended then not to have cold fusion and sql
> >server
> >on the same production box?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jacob Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: 27 February 2001 14:36
> >To: CF-Server
> >Subject: RE: Hmmmm?
> >
> >
> > Sorry, that has not been my experience. There is no memory leak
> in CF
> >that
> >I have found, just as there is no memory leak in ASP. However, in CF and
> >ASP code can be written that does not release memory. In ASP, this is
> >easy,
> >in CF it's a little harder. I have ran an NT - CF Server getting over 1
> >million hits a day for over 6 months without a reboot (nstorm.com). The
> >only reason I had to reboot was my company got bought and we switched
> >buildings. If your code is solid, there is no memory leak in CF 4.01 I
> >know
> >for sure. Currently all the sites I'm in charge of use cf 4.51 and they
do
> >not show signs of memory leaks. I'd suggest having the code looked at by
a
> >Senior developer in CF. They will be able to find the problem for you.
> > TIPS: Don't store large amounts of information in application or
> session
> >variable
> > Check for endless loops.
> > Don't run large scheduled tasks on your production box.
> > Lower session time.
> >
> >======================================
> >Jacob Cameron
> >Director of Information Technologies
> >MultiMark Communications
> >1801 Laws St.
> >Dallas, TX 75202
> >
> >Tel: 214-871-9117 x104
> >Fax: 214-303-0698
> >
> >E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >W: http://www.multimark.com/
> >======================================
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ralph Stark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:07 PM
> >To: CF-Server
> >Subject: Re: Hmmmm?
> >
> >
> >Yes you are correct. There is a memory leak with Cold Fusion. We
currently
> >run our server with 4GB of ram on each and have not had "many" problems.
I
> >have spoken with a couple of people at Albany CF Users group and found
that
> >they do not suggest running a production CF Server with less than 512MB
of
> >ram. Event then I would keep an eye on the memory usage. As it was
> >explained
> >to me the server is grabbing memory to use when it access your queries.
> >Then
> >the server holds on to this memory in the event you may need it again.
Some
> >helpful things I have been told are;
> >
> >1) Make sure your databases are not on the CF server.
> >2) Scheduled reboots.
> >3) Structures such as cfloops eat up memory fast.
> >4) Make sure no session variables are just hanging out on the server.
> >
> >These few thing have made the memory leak less of an issue, but it still
> >becomes a problem every once and a while.
> >
> >Hope this helps you out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: CF-Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Hmmmm?
> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:59:25 -0700
> > >
> > >I was wondering if anybody could offer any suggestions. We have 2
> >servers
> > >running cold fusion server 4.5.2, and one server running 4.0. When I
> >check
> > >the memory usage of the 4.0 machine it is somewhere around 4MB, when I
> > >check
> > >the 4.5.2 machines it is upwards of 16MB, and always increasing. The
4.0
> > >machine has been up longer, but probably only gets about 40-50% of the
> >hits
> > >of the 4.5.2 servers. I was wondering if this looked normal to people.
> > >The
> > >one machine was rebooted after an upgrade about a week ago, and it's
> >memory
> > >usage has increased about 100% in that week. I am pretty new to CF
> >Server,
> > >and have an NT background, and this looks like a memory leak to me,
with
> >CF
> > >Server not letting go of memory it takes.
> > >Any thoughts anybody?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Thomas.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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