> alternatively, there is a program called Urchin I see alot of hosting
> companies using...

We evaluated Urchin awhile back. It seems like a solid application, but it
was very expensive for the features it had (or, rather, didn't have). Of
course, we we're evaluating it from an ISPs perspective. If memory serves, I
think it was more reasonable for single virtual server installations.

> look at the unix cross over freeware types too.

Most of these, like Analog, are good at producing simple snapshots of the
amount of traffic a Web site gets: their data analysis doesn't go very deep.
Of course, this may be all you are looking for, but we came to the
conclusion that, as an ISP, we needed software that would be able to fit a
wide variety of needs from across our entire client base. You can't beat the
price of these apps though. :)

Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:07
To: CF-Server
Subject: RE: Alternative to Webtrends


LiveStats (formerly Statistics Server) by DeepMetrix (formerly MediaHouse).
:P We're still testing the new version so I can't really tell you what
that's like. However, the actual statistics reporting in the previous
version was fairly deep and reliable.

We had quite a few problems with corrupted databases and mail engine
problems. It looks like we weren't the only ones since they've completely
reengineered the application to work out of MySQL or Microsoft SQL Server
rather than its own proprietary format. We're testing the new mail engine
now: hopefully that has been retooled as well.

Their support is very responsive, though not always tremendously helpful.
The price is fair, especially for ISPs. All in all, we're pretty happy with
the application, which is something we couldn't say about WebTrends.

Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Skiba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:43 AM
To: CF-Server
Subject: Alternative to Webtrends


We're thinking about moving to a different program for generating stats for
our domain customers. We have a few hundred domains.
Does anyone have any suggestions as an alternative to Webtrends?

Thanks,
Sarah Skiba, Web Services Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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