I have experience both in Tango and ColdFusion.
As for experienced developer it is, basically, no matter what to choose:
Tango or ColdFusion - they are almost the same. Development with Tango may
be a little bit faster for beginners, cause it is very 'visual'. One could
build template sceleton with almost only mouse drag'n'drops. Templates in
Tango are devided into 2 layers: logic and layout (which may contain logic
too). Logic layer represented with tree-like structure and it's much more
understandable than CF templates, but layout layer looks the same way as
CF's one - same html tags mixed with Tango's. But these two layers bring
another problem - you can't see all the code on one page, what you see is a
common logic or html layout, thus when you're getting another guy's code you
should open each "action" and look what is behind it.
Indeed it is a matter of experience.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 6:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT (longish) Tango??
>
>
> The item (below) was included in a posting to another UG...
>
> ...the author is an employee of Pervasive (Developer of Tango)
>
> It's claims caught my attention.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts/experiences with Tango vs CF.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> >I am a senior software engineer for Pervasive Software (the
> maker of Tango).
> >I work in the developer solutions group and I was
> responsible for writing
> >the StoreFront demo that comes with package. I can tell you
> that Tango
> >handles "all" of the above. As I write this, I am in the middle of a
> >multi-developer/multi-site development effort for the
> largest project I've
> >ever been involved with - all built completely around Tango.
> We are using
> >SourceSafe for source control and Tango directly connects to
> this package
> >from within the IDE (as well others) - key to survival here!
> Tango is very
> >XML centric, the application files Tango generates are XML
> and Tango has a
> >full set of XML/DOM interfaces - including the ability to
> retrieve and send
> >XML over HTTP which allows things like WML
> >(http://www.pervasive.com/news/pr/pr00apr05.html), SOAP, and
> other XML
> >standards to be used. Tango is a GUI driven "action" based
> development
> >environment that also includes an extensible "Mark-up
> language" as well as
> >object oriented design capabilities (Tango class files) and
> the ability to
> >directly use both COM and Java Beans - and even other
> extensibility features
> >(DLL, command line, apple script). All this, and not
> mention that Tango is
> >available on Window, UNIX, Linux and Mac platforms. We find
> many users
> >preferring to develop on the Mac platform and deploy on NT
> or UNIX. Tango
> >also has the ability, unlike CF, to separate the Tango
> server from the Web
> >Server allowing a higher level of security to be implemented
> by placing a
> >firewall between Tango and your web server - this is very
> critical when your
> >database also needs to be behind the firewall yet doesn't
> use TCP/IP as a
> >transport mechanism! Tango can connect to any data store
> that supports
> >ODBC, and can also directly connect to Oracle (via OCI) and
> Pervasive.SQL.
> >I can go on, but I don't need to - I can say what ever I
> want, only you can
> >decide for yourself if the tool is right for you, so don't
> take my word for
> >it, try it yourself: http://www.pervasive.com/tango/.
> >
> >Also, be sure to visit some sites built on Tango:
> >
> >http://www.theglobe.com
> >http://www.colleges.com
> >http://www.jokes.com
> >http://componentzone.pervasive.com
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ritchie
> >
> >*** Thoughts on Cold Fusion ***
> >
> >In CF, there is no action based GUI like Tango's, it has
> only a page-based
> >layout. The CF Editor is just Allaire's HomeSite product
> with CF tags
> >thrown in. Although CF has project wizards, it still takes
> hours to days to
> >do what Tango's Search Builder can do in four minutes. The graphical
> >structure of Tango makes it much easier to use for big
> projects, and easy
> >source control integration and Tango-based objects means
> that it is easy to
> >split a project between many people.
> >
> >*** Key Tango Features ***
> >
> >- Intuitive, visual application development environment-the Tango
> >Development Studio.
> >- 26 built-in actions for implementing business logic.
> >- Object extensibility with COM objects and JavaBeans.
> >- Tango's own object model-robust reusability with Tango class files.
> >- State-of-the-art personalization and content management.
> >- Full XML implementation for accurate business-to-business
> communication.
> >- Cross-platform development on Windows or Mac OS.
> >- Multi-platform deployment on Windows NT/95/98, Solaris, Linux and
> >Macintosh.
> >- A robust Application Server that scales to meet increasing demands.
> >- Team-based development features, such as source code
> control mechanisms
> >for secure development.
> >- Native Oracle support and bundled ODBC drivers for
> advanced database
> >connectivity.
> >- Pervasive.SQL 2000 database bundled with Windows, Solaris and Linux
> >versions.
> >- Online tutorials, demos and sample code to jumpstart
> development and cut
> >the learning curve.
> >
> >*** Usability Highlights ***
> >
> >- Able to separate application logic from presentation
> logic. This makes it
> >MUCH easier to modify someone else's' code.
> >- Able to break down presentation code into smaller bite size pieces.
> >- Search/Update/Delete Database Actions are very fast to
> setup and useful
> >for integrating data rapidly into web applications.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:23 AM
> >Subject: RE: Popularity Cold Fusion
> >
> >
> >Can you explain "Not good for big projects with different coder. No
> >structure enough."
> >
> >One of the Key features that we are looking for in Cold Fusion is
> >Distributed Development/Remote
> >Development of applications, We need good project management
> capablities
> >like Source Control Integration, Remote team development
> etc.Also,being a
> >offshore software development company catering to the US
> markets it becomes
> >all the more critical.
> >
> >One more feature we are looking hard is CFML and XML integration.
> >
> >How does Tango handle the above?
> >Does Tango have its own server side Mark-up language?
> >
> >I would appreciate your inputs.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 8:44 PM
> >Subject: RE: Popularity Cold Fusion
> >
> >
> >Really a good product for small project. Quick learned and
> quick coding.
> >Not good for big projects with different coder. No structure enough.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: mardi 4 avril 2000 11:02
> > > Subject: Popularity Cold Fusion
> > >
> > >
> > > We are considered purchasing of Alliare's Cold Fusion server
> > > and Cold fusion
> > > Studio for Web application development.
> > >
> > > Would in like any inputs on its popularity, CFML etc.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
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