Very true and there are plenty who have fallen by the wayside due to financial considerations. But the point is moot. I see no problem at all asking MM to pay me jokingly (or not). Does it make me look cheap? Does it demean me as a person? Does it call into question the reasons why I'm supporting the community? No, no and no. An off the cuff remark or joke that hurts none should not be penalized. If you want to think its presumptuous, then fine and good. I can't stop you, but I can't agree with you either. But again, the point is moot. This started out as an admin message, not an invitation to a fight or any other OT discussion. I you want to continue discussing this I'd be happy to do so off list, but this is not the place.
> There are plenty of other people contributing to the ColdFusion > community everyday and have been for quite some time. I don't see any of > them asking jokingly or not for Macromedia to pay them. The whole point > of contributing to the community is to do it for philanthropic reasons. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > V: 415-577-8070 > F: 415-341-8906 > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:18 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > I didn't ask for a job, I was jokingly suggesting it and it went on > from > > there. If I really wanted a job with MM, I would have offered to move > to > > the west coast to take the community managers position when it was > being > > filled. I'm quite happy here. > > Now for the fact. I do make a living in ColdFusion. It's what I do and > > have been doing for the last 7 years. I also support my community with > the > > lists and other features. I'd love to do a lot more but can't due to > the > > time and money issues. A consultant has to deal with this reality. If > I > > could find a solid company who would put up with me servicing the > > community or even profit from it, I would. It's just not the right > climate > > now. > > > > > It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia > should > > > hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia > like > > > was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and > a > > > community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what > they do > > > that is one issue, but suggestion they hire someone else is simply > not > > > the way to approach it. > > > > > > Michael, if you really want to make a living working for the > ColdFusion > > > community I suggest you either apply for a job with Macromedia > through > > > the normal channels or better yet; start your own ColdFusion > community > > > portal. If you make it the number one spot for ColdFusion developers > to > > > go then I am sure you will be able to find plenty of ad revenue from > > > companies like Macromedia. > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > President & CEO > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > > > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question > > > > continues, > > > > >I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > > > >"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for > asking > > > the > > > > >question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the > > > question". > > > > I > > > > >think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll > cut > > > down > > > > >on what some feel are easy or silly > > > > > > > > Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over > and > > > over, > > > > but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best > lists > > > I've > > > > ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question > that > > > some > > > > people would label stupid. > > > > > > > > >questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me > for > > > > >hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time > as > > > is. > > > > >(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > > > > > > > I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this > list > > > is > > > > probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
