Do you have access to a linux machine? 

Jesse Noller
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Macromedia Server Development
Unix/Linux "special guy" 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> 
> Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on OSX
> daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there another
> way to do it? I'd stop complaining if I could just get a copy. I don't
> give a crap about Verity and WebServices, while on the horizon for the
> application I'm currently building, aren't a big concern for me right
> now.
> 
> Is there a way to do it without having to buy VirtualPC?
> 
> Joshua Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote:
> >     No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented. The users
> who
> > feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes.
> 
> Well, I commented too. I run CFMX on OSX day-in, day-out and do all my
> development on it. But. As I have repeatedly pointed out IT IS
> UNSUPPORTED.
>   Verity doesn't work, publishing web services doesn't work. I'm sure
> other
> stuff doesn't work too. For what *I* need, it does the job. If it
> breaks,
> I'm on my own.
> 
> Jesse's points about cost / ROI for ports are spot on. I worked for a
> software company in the early 90's who targeted about 20 different
> hardware / OS combinations. We had to create phenomenally portable code
> in
> order to be able to do that in a cost-effective manner - which strictly
> limited the sophistication of our products!
> 
> >     Neither of these avenues have been shown, or opened to us as of
> yet,
> > our most common feedback is for a "Free Developer version" for OS/X.
> 
> Exactly. This would be a zero-revenue situation for us which makes the
> port unappealing. More to the point, users would still expect everything
> 
> to work flawlessly. Look at the loud complaints already over some of
> thee
> small differences between CF5 and CFMX! Multiply that by an already
> vocal
> minority clamoring for the OSX port and multiply *that* by some
> necessarily omitted functionality - like Verity - and it hardly bears
> thinking about!
> 
> While Dick is an admirable champion of the platform, he is also a very
> good example of the level of 'noise' we make expect if the OSX port
> wasn't
> perfect (no offense Dick, I'm sure you understand what I mean!).
> 
> > Trust me, I *want* us to support these platforms, but as a developer,
> > QA
> > engineer, long time employee and a budding business person, wanting
> > something is nice, but given current constraints and reality, it is
> not a
> > viable opportunity for continued growth and revenue generation.
> 
> Like Jesse, I also want to see us support more platforms but, as Jesse
> so
> correctly points out, it ain't viable (and may never be so).
> 
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> 
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
> 
> 
> 
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