I didn't mean to imply I had any interest in doing it. I was just
brainstorming.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> 
> If I were you I would contact a product manager directly about this
> subject.
> 
> And I would not recommend it.
> 
> Jesse Noller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Macromedia Server Development
> Unix/Linux "special guy"
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:46 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> >
> > This does make me wonder. I know we are individuals aren't allowed
to
> > redistribute CFMX, so we can't repackage the Linux version into an
OS X
> > version. However, what about server integration partners like my
> > company? We are allowed to OEM CFMX and create our own
distributions. I
> > wonder if there is anything to stop us from selling an OS X version.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > V: 415-577-8070
> > F: 415-341-8906
> > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:30 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> > >
> > > Do you have access to a linux machine?
> > >
> > > Jesse Noller
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Macromedia Server Development
> > > Unix/Linux "special guy"
> > >
> > > "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
> > > explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> > > >
> > > > Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run
on
> > OSX
> > > > daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there
> > another
> > > > way to do it? I'd stop complaining if I could just get a copy. I
> > don't
> > > > give a crap about Verity and WebServices, while on the horizon
for
> > the
> > > > application I'm currently building, aren't a big concern for me
> > right
> > > > now.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to do it without having to buy VirtualPC?
> > > >
> > > > Joshua Miller
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:22 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote:
> > > > >       No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented.
The
> > users
> > > > who
> > > > > feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I commented too. I run CFMX on OSX day-in, day-out and do
all
> > my
> > > > development on it. But. As I have repeatedly pointed out IT IS
> > > > UNSUPPORTED.
> > > >   Verity doesn't work, publishing web services doesn't work. I'm
> > sure
> > > > other
> > > > stuff doesn't work too. For what *I* need, it does the job. If
it
> > > > breaks,
> > > > I'm on my own.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse's points about cost / ROI for ports are spot on. I worked
for
> > a
> > > > software company in the early 90's who targeted about 20
different
> > > > hardware / OS combinations. We had to create phenomenally
portable
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > order to be able to do that in a cost-effective manner - which
> > strictly
> > > > limited the sophistication of our products!
> > > >
> > > > >       Neither of these avenues have been shown, or opened to
us as
> > of
> > > > yet,
> > > > > our most common feedback is for a "Free Developer version" for
> > OS/X.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly. This would be a zero-revenue situation for us which
makes
> > the
> > > > port unappealing. More to the point, users would still expect
> > everything
> > > >
> > > > to work flawlessly. Look at the loud complaints already over
some of
> > > > thee
> > > > small differences between CF5 and CFMX! Multiply that by an
already
> > > > vocal
> > > > minority clamoring for the OSX port and multiply *that* by some
> > > > necessarily omitted functionality - like Verity - and it hardly
> > bears
> > > > thinking about!
> > > >
> > > > While Dick is an admirable champion of the platform, he is also
a
> > very
> > > > good example of the level of 'noise' we make expect if the OSX
port
> > > > wasn't
> > > > perfect (no offense Dick, I'm sure you understand what I mean!).
> > > >
> > > > > Trust me, I *want* us to support these platforms, but as a
> > developer,
> > > > > QA
> > > > > engineer, long time employee and a budding business person,
> > wanting
> > > > > something is nice, but given current constraints and reality,
it
> > is
> > > > not a
> > > > > viable opportunity for continued growth and revenue
generation.
> > > >
> > > > Like Jesse, I also want to see us support more platforms but, as
> > Jesse
> > > > so
> > > > correctly points out, it ain't viable (and may never be so).
> > > >
> > > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> > > >
> > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > > > -- Margaret Atwood
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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