I hope I have not affended anyone over this being that I have not had any replies.
-----Original Message----- From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: learning by example (was RE: http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??) Thanks for your reply Matt. It is kind of hard to explain what I'm looking for, I apologize for that. I have and will continue to post questions to this list, it is a great resource. I will also look into C as you suggest. I guess this thread got off base a little by my frustrations. I'm not the best developer or programmer there ever was but I don't think I'm shite either. I just have this feeling there is something more there than DesDev currently offers. I have found that your blog along as others are way much better, and keep me way much more in-the-know, and keep my attention span the longest. I admit that this is a hard thing for someone to do (keep my attention). Maybe DesDev can be a little more like your Blog's, DesDev with topics ranging from Beginner to Intermediate, and then have a side bar for the advanced topics. It could be that I scan the information on DesDev allot, missing some really good articles explaining some topics in which I will be interested. Like I said above it may help to separate out the articles by level. I realize some of the things I have said in this reply Mike don't pertain to you and should be directed at Vern. I just want to keep this open for everyone else to read and maybe bring out some of there feelings similar to mine. Or to just find out that I'm way off base and should shut-up. Again thanks for your reply and your continued support to us residents of the CF Community. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: learning by exmaple (was RE: http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??) I can't speak for others, but for me it is almost impossible to figure out what others want to know. For a while I tried to give presentations and write articles on what I thought were interesting problems and how I solved them. Later, I learned that very few people were interested because they couldn't understand the problems to begin with. Now I follow a different methodology. I wait for people to ask questions on the list and if I see enough interest then I try to write it up. My suggestion would to ask your questions as separate threads here on this list. You'll get some insight from the responses and I as well as Macromedia will be able to see what you are interested in learning about. I can then write up an article explaining the concept. Honestly though, I think that will only help you be a better CF developer. If you want to be a better programmer then you are going to need more then just the examples. IMHO, the number one thing you can do to be a better programmer is to learn C (I mean C, not C++). Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:30 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down?? > > "Why is that? Are the examples just too simple? What sort of things would > you like to see?" > > The examples are mostly way to simple. We can find all of this within our > Docs included with DMX and our oldie but goodie CFStudio. > > I would like to see some in-depth coverage of these functions. I don't > want > to know how to consume the babelfish web service. After reading the > tutorial > for the first time, it is easy to consume it. Many web services out there > require some kind of authentication string passed along to it. How can I > do > this? I know how to pass one string to the service, but how about > multiples. > I understand the DMX can read a WSDL file for you and output the functions > and require strings to pass to it. But how can I do this myself. How does > one read an WSDL file without DMX? > > "Hmm, I thought the material covered quite a broad range. This is good > feedback tho' as we're always looking to improve the site and make it more > valuable. What sort of topics would people like to see?" > > It does cover a broad range. But again they are pretty simple. How about > some more examples of using flash with cf? > I want to totally understand flash remoting and the like, but really can't > get an understanding from it from the current examples apps. If a > programmer > has never opened flash before, how can he easily get started. The examples > now, seem to need you to understand how the timelines work and how and > where > to put your variables before you get started. Server-Side ActionScript and > how to use it would be great to learn more about. Along with Java > Integration examples. > > On a side note, it would be nice to know if it is possible to have the > WSDL > description page taken out of the administrator to be able to place it > publicly accessible. And if it is possible how we can do it with some > examples. Also would like to see an example online (custom tag, cfc, etc) > for the compile.bat script. How I would and why one would want to use it > over JIT. What are the benefits of both. After that an in-depth > explanation > of the .class files it creates. (I know some of you guys have covered this > on your blogs). Maybe an overview of how CFMX operates java based. I still > don't understand this. > > Hell sorry for going on so long but there are many advanced topics in my > mind that this could go on for ever. Basically take Matt's, Vern's, Yours, > Ben's, etc brains package them into a .jar file and upload them to the > site. > :) Like my grandfather used to say, "I have already forgotten more than > you > will ever now!" I want the good stuff, the stuff that makes you guys tick, > what features and such would you like to see. I'm sure you all feel that > the > examples and things are simple. Bring us little guys up to your level. Let > us know what you know. > > There are so many new features and possibilities out there now with MX it > is > somewhat overwhelming. I love the idea of Rich Clients but can't get > started > because I'm still trying to catch up with CFMX. > > Again you guys are the best, keep up the wonderful work. > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. 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