It was the only thing I can think of on short notice.  Do you have a 
better one?  Or, if I am completely off base, do you care to further 
explain your original thought?

At 10:54 AM 9/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I don't really think that analogy works as it would mean CF and Java
>programmers were just drivers.
>
>Matt Liotta
>President & CEO
>Montara Software, Inc.
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:43 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: learning C? (was by exmaple (was RE:
> > http://examples.macromedia.com/coldfusion/examples/ down??)
> >
> >   If you know how to build a car engine, won't that make you a better
>car
> > owner?  Many would say yes.  Knowledge of how to build a car engine
>will
> > also give you knowledge of how to maintain it and why it should be
> > maintained etc.. etc..
> >   I know I'm supposed to get my oil changed every three to six
>thousand
> > miles, but I don't have the foggiest idea why, and let it slide more
>often
> > than not.
> >
> >   The same concept can apply to programming.  I think what Matt was
> > getting
> > at.
> >
> >   On a more specific note.  I spoke to one of my professors when
>leaving
> > college about the fact that the introductory CS courses were moving
>into
> > Java as a language instead of Pascal.
> >
> >   When I took CS101, I created a Stack ADT in Pascal.  I specifically
> > implemented each procedure (Push, Pop, StackNew, IsStackEmpty, etc.. )
>and
> > learned different approaches to take to make it all work.
> >
> >   Moving into Java, the students no longer have to create a Stack ADT,
> > they
> > merely have to create an instance of the stack class and all the
>methods
> > are already there.
> >
> >   Are they learning as much in the second approach as they will from
>the
> > first?  I doubt it.
> >
> >
> > At 12:53 PM 9/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > Matt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A CF programmer already should have an understanding
> > > > of programming logic. Simply picking up another
> > > > garbage collected language with lots of built-in
> > > > functionality it only a matter of learning syntax.
> > > > With C that is not the case.
> > > >
> > >I'm a little confused...
> > >
> > >Besides a deep appreciation for the garbage collector
> > >and a badge that says I'm a real programmer what do I
> > >gain by learning about all of the "nuts and bolts"?
> > >
> > >Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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