Hi, Ben. After looking over these books online and at Barnes & Nobles bookstore, they don't appear to be what I'm looking for.
In the descriptions of the material, reveiws, and even the table of contents, provided online I've yet to run across the words Cold Fusion...I believe when I was looking at the physical books, there was a relatively small section in at least one of the books that dealt with CF, but it was just a very small section the book. The problem is, I would have to wade through tons of material and projects, which are not related directly to my CF work, then try to figure out how all of it applies to CF. I don't want to know everything about AS before beginning to use it in apps. I learned just enough from targeted tutorials when I first started using CF to build simple apps, then progressed from there. I'd like to be able to do the same thing with Flash-MX. It seems that the only solutions available now propose that AS be learned in its fullness, which, while I'm sure would be great to know, is just too much to try to swallow before any practical (as in "money-making") work gets done. I'm looking for a way to quickly change from building HTML-based CF apps to Flash MX-based CF apps and want tutorials, books, or whatever that are targeted toward that need. Too much of the books seem to focus on using AS for interactivity within a Flash movie, but not necessarily with CF connectivity. The focus just isn't tight enough. Rather than buy books that are 500 pages long and only be able to use about 5-10% of the material presented, I would rather pay $5 here and there to purchase access to online tutorials that target my specific needs. Have you considered authoring online materials that users can purchase? More like purchasing a tutorial or course which is tightly focused? Thanks for letting me go on. It's just frustrating in this "age of information" not to be able to find exactly what I need. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book There are lots of basic AS books out there (and lots of not so basic ones too). I have "Macromedia Flash MX ActionScripting: Advanced Training from the Source" here and it is quite good. My only objection to it is that all the AS is oriented around UI and it assumes that you know basic Flash UI creation (which for many CFers is not the case). Still, if you need a jump start on AS basics it's a good choice: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0201770229/benfortascoldfusA/ For more advanced ActionScript you'll want Phillip Kerman's "ActionScripting in Flash MX". I have yet to go through this edition thoroughly, but I also have the previous edition and use that one extensively. It's a very good book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0735712956/benfortascoldfusA/ --- Ben -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book For us AS beginners, the problem is that we *must* learn the most basic aspects of AS to function. Advanced scripters may not want to wade through the basics, but they can still get to where they need to be. Skip the basics, and start with the advanced stuff, and the beginners are left out in cold... If you don't want to write multiple books to satisfy everyone, then it's lowest common denominator time... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book Ok, I am keeping a list ... > More ActionScript > Less ActionScript > More complex ActionScript > Less complex ActionScript > More CFML > Less CFML > Simpler remoting > More complex remoting Great, we'll get right to work on it. :-) -----Original Message----- From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ben's J2EE Book > On Friday, Sep 27, 2002, at 11:36 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > > They were all raffled away last at BACFUG; you should have attended. > > BTW, the reviews I've heard so far on the Flash integration book > > from CFers is that it is too beginner to be useful. > > I've actually heard the opposite - that the ActionScript presented is > too complex (and not thoroughly explained) for beginners! > I've heard both, coming from two totally different guys, a fellow Actionscript geek said the ActionScript was good, but "not too fancy or advanced", a CF guy said he burned his mind trying to follow the ActionScript stuff :-))) Massimo ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
