Rick,

well, we have ton of examples (on DesDev and the DRK) but I believe that
you said you do not like to learn via examples. We also have a lot of
tutorials on examples on desdev:

http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/flash/

http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/

here is what i would suggest:

1. forget flash is frame based. (i usually only ever use 1 frame).
2. think of ActionScript as JavaScript.
3. start simple. create a simple form in flash that submits data to CF,
and then has CF return data to flash.
4. ask questions. the flash community is huge and very helpful.

other than that, we have heard the input from you and other developers
and are aiming to provide more tutorials on getting started with flash /
actionscript.

are there any particular areas you would like covered?

mike chambers

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:09 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now 
> new course to be offered by MACR
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> Hi, Mike.
> 
> Your work sounds exactly like what I'm trying to make happen.
> Any resources you would point me to, to get an Intermediate CF coder
> familiar enough with Flash Remoting, especially ActionScript, to
> create some "one-page" apps?
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:35 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
> be offered by MACR
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> 
> > I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
> > linking to a DB
> > for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
> > and no I am not
> > anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
> > business benefit
> > (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things 
> which could be
> > developed in normal HTML.
> 
> If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no 
> interaction,
> then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
> interacts with that data in any way, then there are 
> advantages. Namely,
> the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
> the data view (or to submit data, etc).
> 
> btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working 
> with Flash
> for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
> about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one 
> Frame which
> a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from 
> Flash and the
> server.
> 
> 
> > What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
> > Participants'
> > (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.
> 
> For what its worth, here is my workflow.
> 
> 1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
> 2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.
> 
> btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the 
> developing
> in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
> bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.
> 
> mike chambers
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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