I actually agree with this post, because I have been programming for 20
years. In this time I have learnt a lot in the logic of programming, and
this would give me the Senior Analyst Programmer status. As I have also been
developing in Coldfusion for the last 3 years, I have found that it is the
same as any other language. This means that anyone else with the same
experience can rightfully claim senior status within weeks of using the
language, because the programming logic flows from one language to the next.
But for anyone learning programming at the same time as learning with
Coldfusion, could also take 6 years to reach senior status. It would all
really depend on your knowledge, ability to learn quickly or even how well
you lateral think.
Also it could take someone constantly working in the industry 3 years and
someone who is learning in their spare time 10 years. It depends on the
individual, and I for one don't like employers always labelling an
individual by the number of years they have worked using a particular
language.
-----Original Message-----
From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2000 10:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OT: RE: Looking for junior-level CF developer
I did not state that I consider this senior. I thought his expectations of
what a junior programmer would know to be excessive. In the UK, you are
considered 'junior' if you have just come out of University after doing a 3
year Computer degree (and up to a year of industrial experience). A senior
would need a minimum of 3 years industrial experience and probably be more
like 5 years.
Again this is conjecture, as I was working as a computer consultant within
1.5 years of leaving University. It comes down to ability (also your belief
in your own abilities).
You also have to look at the skill set he was requiring. Most people spend a
long time just getting to know one database. Let alone three. I would say
that a Junior would have had experience with one serious database (SQL
Server or Oracle) and knows Access.
Still it is only my honest opinion and in the end it is down to the
individual to decide how good they are and run with that. Web development is
an odd beast as it requires a broader range of knowledge than most computer
programming skills.
So in summary:
It is up to you to decide if you are 'junior' or not. But if you had that
skill set (SQL, Oracle, HTML, Javascript and CF) and where able to
demonstrate these effectively with a good understanding of database design,
a thorough understanding of CF, HTML and Javascript , and a good user
interface design ability, then you can quite happily go become a consultant.
Earnings in the South East UK should take you to around �100k a year (about
$150k) assuming a 2000 hour year.
If you look at my earlier post you will also see that I equated a junior
position with having around 1.5 years experience, and even then I think that
comes down to the individual. Some people are just natural born programmers
:-)
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