But it worked so well with Unix!

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Matt Robertson    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
from: Mosh Teitelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:46:59 -0400

>Not that I think the idea behind the newly introduced tags are bad (in fact,
>quite the opposite) but I'm kind of surprised that you're introducing new
>tags at all.  I realize that your intent with Bluedragon is probably not to
>be "cross-platform" compatible (backwards compatible?) with Macromedia's
>product, but this "splitting," if you will, of the CFML language kind of
>worries me.  Kind of like the early M$ vs. Netscape days when each company
>would introduce their own variants of HTML.
>
>--
>Mosh Teitelbaum
>evoch, LLC
>Tel: (301) 625-9191
>Fax: (301) 933-3651
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:24 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>>
>>
>> For what it's worth, the BlueDragon sections of New Atlanta's web site,
>> starting with the following URL, are all running on BlueDragon/J2EE on
>> top of ServletExec:
>>
>>    http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm
>>
>> The rest of the web site, which is all JSP pages, is (of course) running
>> on ServletExec, and all database access is via JTurbo, our JDBC driver
>> for Microsoft SQL Server (yes, we believe in "eating our own dog food").
>> The site is running on Windows 2000 with Microsoft IIS 5.0.
>>
>> You might be interested in what we've done to get a common look-and-feel
>> across CFML and JSP pages. Because the site was originally developed
>> entirely in JSP, the headers, footers, and other common elements are
>> implemented as JSP page fragments and included via standard
>> <jsp:include/> tags. For the CFML pages, we've modified CFINCLUDE to
>> take an optional PAGE attribute, which allows us to include JSP pages
>> within CFML:
>>
>>     <CFINCLUDE PAGE="/templates/footer.jsp">
>>
>> This enhancement to CFINCLUDE will be part of the BlueDragon 3.0.1
>> service pack we're preparing for release within the next two weeks. (Of
>> course, you'll still be able to use CFINCLUDE with the TEMPLATE
>> attribute for CFML pages). We've also implemented a CFFORWARD tag that
>> will be included in the service pack:
>>
>>     <CFFORWARD PAGE="/nextPage.jsp">
>>
>> CFINCLUDE with the PAGE attribute and CFFORWARD work exactly the same as
>> using the GetPageContext().include() and GetPageContext().forward()
>> functions in CFMX. We thought implementing them as CFML tags was a
>> little more intuitive and easier to use.
>>
>> Finally, for those who know about and are interested in such things, New
>> Atlanta's web site is built using Struts; BlueDragon allows CFML pages
>> to participate very nicely as the presentation layer of a Struts-based
>> web application. (I'm trying to get the engineer who implemented it to
>> write a white paper on this; if I'm successful we'll post the white
>> paper on our web site).
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:55 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>> >
>> >
>> > I thought I would change the subject to better reflect the
>> > topic of this thread.
>> >
>> > Joe asks...
>> > > Has anybody deployed any CF applications on Blue Dragon..
>> > > How are they working? Any issues?
>> >
>> > I've played with BlueDragon only enough to know that is does
>> > work. We are currently in the process of removing CFMX
>> > dependencies from our product suite (BlueDragon is meant to
>> > be compatible with CF 5; not MX). Once that work is complete
>> > we will begin work on making our product suite available on
>> > BlueDragon and then I can report better on how well it works.
>> >
>> > Matt Liotta
>> > President & CEO
>> > Montara Software, Inc.
>> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>> > 888-408-0900 x901
>> >
>>
>> 
>
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