On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 07:52 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
>> It appears that this sort of pricing is artificial, and nudges
>> customers to be dishonest -- since I can't see how it can be
>> enforced.
>
> Actually, in most enterprise environments I've seen, this doesn't  
> really
> come up. Most server products in those environments tend to be fully
> licensed. It's not that those environments have a higher moral  
> standard, but
> that they have relatively strict policies about these things, and  
> people
> aren't spending their own money anyway, if you know what I mean. If  
> you're a
> middle manager, would you risk your job to save your bosses some money?
> Also, no one would want to invalidate their tech support - having tech
> support is perceived as a really important thing in the enterprise.

I thought rthat support would be the reason -- but wanted someone else  
to state the fact.

Over the life of the installation, I suspect that the initial cost of  
CFMX is relatively minor when compared to other costs.

>
>> Why not just charge based on product capabilities?
>
> Because product capabilities don't have anything to do with it, really.
> Vendors charge what the market will bear.
>

Ahh, a realist!


>> Do Server OS platforms charge based on the number of CPU'? --
>> At least they would have a valid reason and an enforcement
>> mechanism.
>
> I suspect that most server operating systems don't do this simply  
> because
> it's irrelevant at that level - you get the server OS with the server.  
> If
> you look at Windows as an example, Microsoft doesn't really care about  
> how
> many processors you have - they care about how many clients will  
> access the
> server. That makes more sense for them, as they're likely to get more  
> for a
> four-processor box as a single processor box, just because it'll be  
> able to
> support more clients.
>

I am not familiar with any server software offerings.

By clients do you mean concurrent browsers accessing the server, or  
something else.

Apple, on its Server software has 2 prices:  10 clients; and unlimited  
clients.

> On the other hand, it's common for database servers to work this way.  
> Oracle
> has traditionally been the worst in this regard. Basically, for a long  
> time,
> buying Oracle was a lot like buying a car - they'd milk you for  
> whatever
> they thought they could get away with.
>

Mmmm... I guess this has changed.

Thanks

Dick

> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
> 
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