Al:

Michael didn't say he was comparing the IP address to the domain in your
email address.  The SMTP server adds an extra header that specifies *its*
domain and *its* IP Address.  Those were the 2 values he was checking.  So
your situation would still work fine.

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Mosh Teitelbaum
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:musella@;virtualtrials.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: (Admin) New spam code
>
>
>    I think you are forgetting situations like mine, which is
> probably very
> common..
> my website is co-located at an isp.  They also provide me with incoming
> mail for my email account. All of my DNS stuff says that
> virtualtrials.com  208.206.10.19 (or something like that:)  is
> the mail server.
>
>    Because this mail server is configured correctly, and it won't allow
> relaying of mail coming from outside of it's network,  I can't
> use it with
> my cable modem connection as an outgoing mail server, so I use my cable
> company's outgoing mail server, mail.optonline.net.  My mail goes
> out with
> a header saying [EMAIL PROTECTED]  but if you traced it back it
> actually comes from an unrelated domain, optonline.net
> Your system would say it's spam.. but it isn't.. that is just a
> common way
> of securing a mail server.  IF I had to follow your rules, my ISP would
> have to allow anyone to relay mail - since many customers are coming from
> outside the local network.
>
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> At 06:49 AM 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > ALL mail headers can be forged.  Using easily forgeable
> Received: headers
> > > for validation is useless.
> >True, but can they be forged properly is the question. I've
> caught enough spam
> >to see that it falls into specific patterns and if I can block
> half or more of
> >it because it falls into a pattern of having recognizably forged
> headers then
> >it's a good thing. I'm going to rewrite the function to just
> contain the IP
> >address checked so that if a machine announces itself as an IP
> and the IP does
> >not match the actual IP that sent the mail then it's spam.
> That's good for
> >10%-15% of the spam right there.
>
> 
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