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-----Original Message----- From: Stacy Young Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:33 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: CF4K was Re: Macromedia listening? is RE: ColdFusion for kids This is my old highschool...was mostly gangs back when I was there but pretty impressive changes in recent years...by grade 11 they're building e-com systems. http://www.riverdalehighonline.com/showcase.html -----Original Message----- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF4K was Re: Macromedia listening? is RE: ColdFusion for kids On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 03:13 PM, Jochem van Dieten wrote: > Dick Applebaum wrote: >> >> This is such a great idea, that I am surprised by the few responses. > > <cynical> > That is because most people with experience in that field expect the > resistance to change that seems to be inherent in educational systems > to > overcome this idea just like all great ideas of the past. > </cynical> I, actually, do have some experience in that field (computer training in high school), although a bit dated. I was involved in a project that installed the first computer LAN in a high school. There was some initial resistance (as there is with all change). But, once people grasped the concept and the benefits, acceptance, well, just snowballed! The lab became a prototype and everyone involved benefitted -- particularly the students -- there were high school students opening their own computer consulting firms. > > Apart from the fact that I don't think it is such a great idea at all. > Learn kids to write in a concise and structured way, don't give them > HTML to play with (just think of the poor teachers that have to grade > something that was written with inordinate amounts of <blink> tags and > text colors on a purple background). If you want to add layout, add > some > stylesheets and XSLT and let the rounding of the mark depend on it, but > the mixing of content and layout is something you *don't* want to teach > children. I agree that writing skills are very important and should be learned in a structured way. But we are discussing additional skills to bring the content (the results of writing kills) to a broader audience the internet. Kids will learn to program the Internet -- just because it's there! Why leave them to their own devices and some of the more obscure languages -- to helter-skelter mix format layout and content. Rather, teach them to do it right (better) with superior tools. Are you saying that while the CFMX approach is good enough for you and I to use,it is not good enough for our kids? What do you propose instead? Finally, I think that kids will not have much trouble grasping the difference between content and layout (packaging), as they are constantly exposed to it in there everyday lives. I think that, properly presented, the value of both form and substance can be learned -- and the web contains millions of examples (good and bad) of both. Dick > > Maybe we will raise a generation that understands the difference > between > form and substance. > > Jochem ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
