You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly, I want that kind of control, I happen to like the command-line. However, many, many Mac users are not hardcore Unix users - not yet anyway. A lot of them are still skeptical of the Terminal as it's been unknown to them until OSX came out.
I just think an option would be good ... For those of us who want the control we could certainly have it, but provide an installer that works like most other Mac apps. You don't really have to dive into the Terminal to install Dreamweaver and that's what most Mac users are used to at this point. At any rate, it's only a small suggestion. I don't think anyone on this list has had any issues with the installation routine - it certainly beats the "compile on Linux" method that Dick came up with. It's not a hard install, just not what a lot of Mac users are going to be familiar with. By the way, you can just double-click on that JAR file instead of typing: java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar I'm still stunned it's available, any installation routine makes me happy right now :) Joshua Miller Head Programmer / IT Manager Garrison Enterprises Inc. www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (704) 569-9044 ext. 254 ************************************************************************ ************* Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender states them to be the views of Garrison Enterprises Inc. This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and advise us by return e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ ************* -----Original Message----- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: > One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the > installation proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are > still getting comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a > lot of developers who don't have a lot of experience with server > installation and maintenance. Rather than running terminal sessions > and editing config files, have an option for "basic install" that does > all these things for you. Could you give some specific examples about what needs to be improved here? I agree that being given a .jar file is not quite as user-friendly as some people might expect but it really isn't that bad: java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar (run through the GUI installer which dumps a CFMXJ2ee folder somewhere) In JMC (JRun Management Console), Create New Server (e.g., cfmx). Then: cd /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx jar xvf <path/to>/CFMXJ2ee/cfusion.war Are you suggesting make all of this go away? Doing the manual install is pretty flexible and that's what many Unix folks would expect... Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog ColdFusion MX and JRun 4 now available for Mac OS X! http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2003/jrun_osx.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4