> Using Fusebox in conjunction with FLIP we have a complete application
design
> and development environment from concept-discussion through coding-ongoing
> maintenance.
>
> There is one last very important point here, there have been many previous
> methodologies/frameworks applied to ColdFusion development.  What is
> different in Fusebox is it has become the most widely used of all of them
> and that is a very considerable factor for those of us using teams of
> developers that can change, grow, shrink etc.
>

Mike makes good points, but one of the key distinctions is that of
*methodology* vs. *framework*. No question that Fusebox is a usefull
framework (though one could argue it's incomplete since it's missing things
like security, etc. That's a separate point). and that FLIP is a useful
methodology.

Methodologies can be religious wars -- XP vs RUP vs FLIP vs Agile vs
whatever. I think most people take the useful parts and synthesize their
own. Really good design/dev teams do this explicitly (e.g. we'll take A from
XP and B, C, and D from FLIP, but also integrate E from RUP and this other
cool methodology I like)

Frameworks, which have their own religious wars, IMHO are much easier to
judge on technical merits than methodologies (which can only be truly
measured by results). In the Java world, there's Struts. There's
velocity/turbine/torque. There's others, I certainly don't have the
definitive list! But in the ASP/CF/PHP world, there's not really any solid
frameworks other than Fusebox. And I like the way the new FB is headed -- it
is much more of a framework than a set of guidelines (like FB2 basically
was).

MM's produced some pretty cool tools/services for building more robut
frameworks in CF. I think the stuff at benorama is cool, but it's not really
a framework (it's sorta like FB2 in that it's guidelines and a few tools).
Fusebox has certainly become a defacto standard for CF frameworks, which is
a good thing. But just like the Java world has room for several different
frameworks, so does the CF world. Looking forward to seeing what's coming
down the pike this year :)

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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