Interesting stuff Jochem, I'm getting ready to write a fairly large
VoiceXML application - you've given me something to chew on for that
application.

For the more immediate use, I will recommend only the hardware smartcard
- I was thinking that was really the only way, but I guess there's a lot
more to this technology than I imagined.

Thanks, to everyone who replied, for the information!

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SmartCard Enabled Websites?


Joshua Miller wrote:
> Is it possible to SmartCard enable a website? I've got a customer 
> requiring that we support SmartCard devices - I was under the 
> impression SmartCard website authentication happened at the 
> workstation level using software to control user access to specific 
> sites. Is this not the case?

Smartcard access control can be at any level you want. You can use it to

control access to (wireless) networks (e.g. in conjunction with IEEE 
802.1x), to computers (native in Windows 2000 and XP) and to websites.


> Is there actual code to integrate into an application to make it 
> SmartCard aware?

Smartcard is a rather broad description. According to some recent stats 
there are some 600 milion smartcards in circulation worldwide. 500 
million of them are integrated in mobile phoness. Of the remaining 100 
million, some 60 million are integrated into bank cards. The rest has 
some dedicated purpose, and is the type most people think about when 
they hear the word smartcard.
The idea behind smartcards is that the security of just passwords 
depends on something what you know. And since people tend to forget 
that, they write it down on those little notes at the bottom of the
screen. With a smartcard however, it depends on both something you know
and 
something you have. Even if you know the password, you still can't get 
in without the smartcard.
Eventually some biometric systems will be developed, so it will become 
possible to do the thing that we actually want, which is determine not 
what somebody knows or has, but who he is. But that will take some time.

The dedicated type is probably what your customer has in mind. Typically

they function by installing a client certificate on the smartcard that 
is then accessed by the browser (requires the user to type a password) 
and then the browser uses the client certificate to identify itself to 
the server.
But I know that RSA is selling phone based systems as well, and for a 
ground-up rollout it is certainly worth investigating (smartcards are 
expensive, buying a mobile phone with one built-in is almost cheaper).


I expect to have a site with smartcard authentication running by the end

of next month using neither propietary hardware or propietary 
smartcards. It will be using mobile phones people already have and 
bankcards people already have (of the 60 million bank cards some 22 
million are in the Netherlands, with a population of about 16 million).

Jochem


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