Matthew,

As I recall it, the .NET Framework is located in the "Recommended Updates"
section (at least in the W2K updater) and is turned on by default.  The
common mistake is to install all the "Critical Updates" without looking,
then install all the "Recommended Updates" without looking.

Suddenly you find yourself with things such as .NET Framework, beta version
of Media Player, Journal Reader, Euro Converter, etc. ;-)

-Novak

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:40 AM
Subject: RE: What's wrong with ASP.NET


> In my experience you have to explicitly check the box to install the
> .NET framework when doing Windows update.  I imagine it's also possible
> that a program was installed that required the framework to be
> installed.  .Exe files created with .NET also require the installation
> of the framework, and may be included as part of the installation
> package.
>
> Matthew Small
> IT Supervisor
> Showstopper National Dance Competitions
> 3660 Old Kings Hwy
> Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
> 843-357-1847
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: What's wrong with ASP.NET
>
> The bottom line here is that this is not really acceptable.  If
> Microsoft
> offers an auto-update facility they should not abuse that by inserting
> or
> installing items in existing codebases without some OVERT* warning of
> such.
> This has little to do with being foolish, in my book if this happened it
> is
> downright wrong. And I do mean *OVERT.
>
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
> Webapper Services LLC
> Web Site http://www.webapper.com
> Blog http://www.webapper.net
>
> Webapper <Web Application Specialists>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: What's wrong with ASP.NET
>
> You are correct there, I did not think that very many were foolish
> enough to
> let
> MS do things automatically <grin>
>
>
>
> =====================================
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =====================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clint Tredway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:06 PM
> Subject: RE: What's wrong with ASP.NET
>
>
> | It will install if you do the auto update feature and just let it
> install
> | without checking it.
> |
> | Seen it happen many times.
> |
> | Clint
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:46 PM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: Re: What's wrong with ASP.NET
> |
> |
> | >NET framework does not install automatically, you have to select it.
> Also
> | .NET
> | framework can be uninstalled as well.  but it does not interfere with
> | non-.NET
> | apps , at least not on my servers.   Win2k, SP3, IIS 5.0  CF 5.0
> |
> | =====================================
> | Douglas White
> | group Manager
> | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | http://www.samcfug.org
> | =====================================
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Clint Tredway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:23 PM
> | Subject: RE: What's wrong with ASP.NET
> |
> |
> | | If you installed the latest service pack, the .Net framework has
> been
> | | installed. Nothing is going to happen on your server just because
> the
> | | framework is installed.
> | |
> | | The aspent_client gets installed in the webroot when the framework
> gets
> | | installed. This is just how the framework works.
> | |
> | | HTH,
> | | Clint
> | |
> | | -----Original Message-----
> | | From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:04 PM
> | | To: CF-Talk
> | | Subject: Re: What's wrong with ASP.NET
> | |
> | |
> | | Hopefully you do not have Active Server Pages installed.  I will
> imagine
> | | that is
> | | the culprit as opposed to having the .NET framework
> | |
> | |
> | |
> | | =====================================
> | | Douglas White
> | | group Manager
> | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | | http://www.samcfug.org
> | | =====================================
> | | ----- Original Message -----
> | | From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:11 PM
> | | Subject: What's wrong with ASP.NET
> | |
> | |
> | | | I'm not sure how many other folks here this bothers, but I thought
> I
> | might
> | | | mention it.
> | | |
> | | | I don't know when or how or why this has happened, but here's the
> story.
> | | |
> | | | I'm usint WinNT 2000 Server, IIS 5 and have CF 5 and CFMX
> installed on
> | | this
> | | | machine. I do a lot of development on this machine, and by and
> large,
> I
> | | | expect the applications I develop to behave in predictable ways.
> | | |
> | | | ASP.NET has in some viral way changed that order of things.
> | | |
> | | | I've noticed in my registry that there are now a number of
> references
> to
> | | | ASP.NET and aspnet_* directories.
> | | |
> | | | I've never knowingly installed anything related to ASP.NET on this
> | | machine.
> | | | I'm not saying that I wouldn't have, I just haven't. They could
> have
> | | gotten
> | | | in piggy-backed on a Windows update, sure.
> | | |
> | | | But here's the really big / stupid part of this ordeal.
> | | |
> | | | In one particular application which I use to manage my website at
> | | | http://www.turnkey.to ( in addition to managing the documentation
> for
> | the
> | | | application ), Microsoft has for some reason known only to them
> decided
> | | that
> | | | this application should have some ASP.NET features. It added the
> | | directory:
> | | |
> | | | c:\inetpub\wwwroot\new epoch\tapestry43e\aspnet_client
> | | |
> | | | which appears to contain only 2 subdirectories and three small
> | javascript
> | | | libraries:
> | | |
> | | | system_web\1_0_3705_288\SmartNav.js
> | | | system_web\1_0_3705_288\SmartNavIE5.js
> | | | system_web\1_0_3705_288\WebUIValidation.js
> | | |
> | | | These are not now nor have the ever been components of my
> application.
> | | They
> | | | serve no purpose here that I know of. So why would M$ arbitrarily
> decide
> | | | that this was needed here? I deleted them once already and they
> grew
> | back,
> | | | so I know they're being automatically generated by someone else's
> crap
> | | | software.
> | | |
> | | | I've never really trusted Microsoft anyway, but it reminds me to
> never,
> | | | EVER, use my computers to store sensitive personal information,
> for
> any
> | | | reason or under ANY circumstances. Microsoft / Yahoo Wallet, yea,
> right,
> | | | that'll happen. This time it was javascript libraries -- what will
> it
> be
> | | | next time? How much of my work will it destroy? How much of my
> life
> will
> | | it
> | | | invade?
> | | |
> | | | Thank you Micro$PAM
> | | |
> | | | s. isaac dealey                954-776-0046
> | | |
> | | | new epoch                      http://www.turnkey.to
> | | |
> | | | lead architect, tapestry cms   http://products.turnkey.to
> | | |
> | | | tapestry api is opensource     http://www.turnkey.to/tapi
> | | |
> | | | certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer
> | | | http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816
> | | |
> | | |
> | |
> | |
> |
> |
>
>
> 
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