Plus for the $$$$$$$$ these cost, you get things like good probes of the app
server, the database server, etc. And an easy way to generate reports. I've
used eTest a bit in a previous set of gigs and love it. OpenSTA is ok, but
the commercial arm of those folks sells the db probes and other useful bits.
Still less than $15-30k, but not free!

But original question was for a 10 concurrent user site. MS Homer is
probably fine for that -- or openSTA. Neither's been a problem generating
that many simultaneous threads, at least for me and distributed across a
couple machines.

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Load Testing


> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > The free tools just don't have what it takes to
> > > uncover all the potential problems your site can
> > > encounter under load.  There's a good reason why
> > > the big tools can command such high prices.
> >
> > As someone who's used tools at both extremes - Segue SilkPerformer on
the
> > high end, OpenSTA on the low end - I'd disagree with this a little bit.
> >
> > In my opinion, the problem with the free tools isn't necessarily that
they
> > "don't have what it takes", just that they aren't nearly as easy to use,
> so
> > you have to spend a lot more time learning how to get useful data from
> them.
>
> I agree with the reason why you disagree! :)
>
> This is actually the main reason why I say the free ones don't hack it.
> It's just like the difference between doing "What If" scenarios on paper
> versus with Excel: Recalculating a business scenario on paper might take
> three hours, but in Excel the same recalculation would take a couple of
> seconds.
>
> This reason alone creates a completely different quality of results:
> rigorously refined versus "This is the best I could come up with on paper
in
> fifteen hours."
>
> Creating, testing, and refining a load test using e-TEST Suite lets you
try
> dozens of refinements in just a couple of hours, whereas the freebies are
> not nearly as automated.  This lack of automation alone will prevent the
> finished tests from having a level of analytical quality worth the dollars
> spent on creating them.
>
> > A
> > capacity planning test for a large, complex public site might be a
month's
> > worth of work or more!
>
> You ain't kiddin'.  This is really hard to get across to clients who don't
> have experience with the nature of load testing.  Most of them have the
> pre-conceived notion that we can find out everything we need in one day.
I
> wish!
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training
> http://www.ColdFusionTraining.com
> E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone:   770-446-8866
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/
>
> 
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