Oh!  Sorry.. Missed that part.  <bowing out gracefully> :)


| -----Original Message-----
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:13 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| Yes, we're already there.  What he's saying is this method is 
| insecure, and there is an alternative that works with cf and 
| straight smtp auth (i.e. 'no relay' in imail).
| 
| -------------------------------------------
|  Matt Robertson,     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| -------------------------------------------
| 
| 
| ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
| From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:03:20 -0800
| 
| >Simply include our local servers in your "Relay for 
| Addresses" list.  
| >And it will stop checking those server IPs.
| >
| >Have done it many times...
| >
| >
| >
| >| -----Original Message-----
| >| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| >| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:56 AM
| >| To: CF-Talk
| >| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| >| 
| >| 
| >| The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up
| >| and it caused a slew of naysaying.  I don't think we ever got 
| >| hold of a working code example and - I believe it was Jochem 
| >| who brought them up - a slew of problems apparently exist 
| >| with using this technique.
| >| 
| >| Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all
| >| hear for doing this with CF, both here and on the IMail list. 
| >|  I'd really appreciate a cfmail snippet that handles this as 
| >| described so I can test/evaluate it.
| >| 
| >| -------------------------------------------
| >|  Matt Robertson,     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| >|  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| >| -------------------------------------------
| >| 
| >| 
| >| ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
| >| From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600
| >| 
| >| >This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS
| >| in order
| >| >to pass the username and password with your CFMAIL
| >| operation.  Allowing
| >| >relaying by IP number is a very insecure way to handle this
| >| as it will
| >| >open the door to spamming by spoofing the IP. SMTP AUTH is a good
| >| >barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.
| >| >
| >| >=====================================
| >| >Douglas White
| >| >group Manager
| >| >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| >| >http://www.samcfug.org =====================================
| >| >----- Original Message -----
| >| >From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| >Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
| >| >Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >| I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP 
| addresses to my CF
| >| >| boxes and tried to send some mail, got the same error.
| >| >|
| >| >| ============================================
| >| >| Bryan F. Hogan
| >| >| Director of Internet Development
| >| >| Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| >| >| Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| >| >| 1-877-72DIGITAL ============================================
| >| >|
| >| >| -----Original Message-----
| >| >| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| >| >| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| >| >| To: CF-Talk
| >| >| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| >| >|
| >| >|
| >| >| No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on
| >| >| individual dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
| >| >|
| >| >| --Matt Robertson--
| >| >| MSB Designs, Inc.
| >| >| http://mysecretbase.com
| >| >|
| >| >| ----- Original Message -----
| >| >| From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| >| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| >| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| >| >| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| >| >|
| >| >|
| >| >| > Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would
| >| require me
| >| >| > to set the ip address of each and every site that I have, that
| >| >| > would not be very cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass 
| >| >| > option but to much $$$.
| >| >| >
| >| >| > ============================================
| >| >| > Bryan F. Hogan
| >| >| > Director of Internet Development
| >| >| > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| >| >| > Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| >| >| > 1-877-72DIGITAL ============================================
| >| >| >
| >| >| > -----Original Message-----
| >| >| > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| >| >| > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
| >| >| > To: CF-Talk
| >| >| > Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| > You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That
| >| fixed it
| >| >| > for me.
| >| >| >
| >| >| > Robert Everland III
| >| >| > Web Developer Extraordinaire
| >| >| > Dixon Ticonderoga Company
| >| >| > http://www.dixonusa.com
| >| >| >
| >| >| > -----Original Message-----
| >| >| > From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| >| >| > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
| >| >| > To: CF-Talk
| >| >| > Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| > We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow
| >| >| > relaying. In doing so we had to upagrade our 
| Persits.Mailsender 
| >| >| > which allows the
| >| >| username
| >| >| > and password attributes, which solves the problem with
| >| Not a Local
| >| >| > Host - Not a Gateway.
| >| >| >
| >| >| > In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this
| >| >| > problem and if so how do you fix it?
| >| >| >
| >| >| > ============================================
| >| >| > Bryan F. Hogan
| >| >| > Director of Internet Development
| >| >| > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| >| >| > Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| >| >| > 1-877-72DIGITAL ============================================
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >|
| >| >| 
| >| >
| >| 
| >
| 
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