So, you're saying that the only time I would have to append
the CFID/CFTOKEN variables to URL's, etc., would be when
I have SETCLIENTCOOKIES to "No"?  Otherwise, CF will
set client cookies even without ClientManagement = "Yes"?

Seems like I may be confusing the term "ClientManagement"
as it applies to cookies, thinking that it only, and not
"SessionManagement",
applies to cookies, when actually those terms refer to types of variables,
but also both involve cookies...would that be correct?

Rick

PS - I think the issue of why my some of my clients have had problems
accessing site management areas that involve cookies and session variables,
has to do with browser security settings, mostly.  And the browser
version...
*AND* the use of AOL's software when trying to perform management functions
on their site.  I had one user tonight trying to work throught the AOL
interface,
which was using IE 5.5, but was unable to maintain session state.

I had that user minimize the AOL interface and use the same browser, IE 5.5,
and they were able to use the site management functions and maintain state
with no problem.  I did, however, have the client lower their security
settings
to "low", which would cause the user's system to accept all cookies.

I've got to check on that with other users who have had problems and see if
there is consistency in the fix...but why some of the users, who probably
haven't
changed their browsers or settings, should suddenly have problems after
years
of no problems is escaping me.

Just glad to have  fix...

Thanks for the help, everyone...

Rick




    >  -----Original Message-----
    >  From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    >  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:09 PM
    >  To: CF-Talk
    >  Subject: RE: Why are my clients having so many login
    >  problems all of a
    >  sud den?
    >
    >
    >  > "you will have to manually append the CFID/CFTOKEN
    >  > values to each URL in your application to maintain
    >  > state, even for session variables."
    >  >
    >  > Oohh, that's not good. Thanks for pointing that out.
    >  > I do have to maintain state with session variables.
    >  > Seems odd to enable ClientManagement *and*
    >  > SessionManagement to maintain state with session
    >  > variables. I would have thought SessionManagement
    >  > would be enough from a common sense point of view...
    >  >
    >  > But "ClientManagement = Yes" is has been and so shall
    >  > it be...
    >
    >  I think you misunderstood Dave Carabetta's post. You don't
    >  have to enable
    >  CLIENTMANAGEMENT unless you plan to use Client variables. The
    >  SETCLIENTCOOKIES attribute applies equally to Client and
    >  Session variables,
    >  I think - if you set it to "No" and are using either, then
    >  you'll either
    >  have to manually append CFID/CFTOKEN to each URL, form
    >  action attribute,
    >  CFLOCATION, and client-side redirect within your code, or
    >  you'll have to set
    >  the cookies yourself using CFCOOKIE.
    >
    >  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
    >  http://www.figleaf.com/
    >  voice: (202) 797-5496
    >  fax: (202) 797-5444
    >
    >  
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