Those are some loaded questions...

Don't worry about clustering IIS, just cluster your CF using clustercats and
that handles balancing the IIS (sort of).  Essentially, since ClusterCats
monitors the availability of the CF server, any performance hit being taken
by IIS will be reflected in the CF performance.

While it is possible to segment the CF boxes from the IIS boxes, I've never
really found a solid argument for it, or really noticed any significant
performance increase doing so.  I would just assume add more boxes to the
cluster than segment the two.

ClusterCats works great as long as you use a shared client storage db and
stay away from session vars.   In reality, you don't have to avoid them
entirely as clustercats supports 'sticky sessions'. Essentially, the user
doesn't get shifted to another server unless the one they began on becomes
completely unavailable.  For some folks, the thought of the user having to
restart the session on the off chance of server failure is considered
reasonable exposure, that decision is yours to make though.

A hardware load balancer is proffered to clustercats, but in honesty if you
are talking about less than 6 servers, the performance difference isn't
noticeable.

I recommend segmenting the oracle servers.  Set one up for select, the other
for insert/delete procedures, then handle replication between them.  In my
experience, this has been the best performance solution with the least
amount of effort.  Depending on your environment it may make more since to
segment your database.  Clients A-L on one box and clients M-Z on the other
for example.  This really only makes since on VERY large databases though.

Wish I could point you to a reliable site with real performance matrixes,
but I've never found one I trust.  My recommendations are based solely on
personal experience, testing, and retesting.

If this matter is of high concern, I would recommend bringing in a
specialist to give you some consultation regarding your environment.

Trey Rouse
Data Applications Architect
Web Services - Rice University

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Clustering, distributed CF and other assorted nonsense


Hi,
        Having a discussion with someone here at work, and I am not sure where I
would even begin to research the topics I need to look into.  To begin with
our environment is CF 5, NT 4, Oracle 8i, IIS.  Now, we just received 3 new
servers and 2 more are on the way.

        The suggested infrastructure is something like this:


 ---------       --------      ---------------       --------       --------
---
|multiple | --- |Firewall|--- |3 CF boxes     | --- |Firewall| --- |2 Oracle
8i|
|IIS Boxes| --- |        |--- |1 as K2 Server | --- |        | --- |
Servers  |
 ---------       --------      ---------------       --------       --------
---

        Now I don't even know if this is possible or not.  Can anyone recommend a
good source of information on

        1. Running IIS/CF in a distributed environment
        2. Clustering IIS
        3. Clustering CF

        Also anyone have or know of benchmark information on these subjects?  I
mean I can see how the distributed load can reduce the processor hit, but
isn't there going to be some extra time in a page request involved in all
the calls to different machines?  I have suggested we do something more
traditional along the lines of multiple boxes with IIS and CF then
replicating / load balanced Oracle servers.

        Another question.  At the last place I worked we had a hardware load
balancing solution, and we just used client vars instead of sessions.  How
is cluster cats on CF 5?  Does it work well?  Is it better to just have the
different CF servers use the same client var storage DB?

        Any help would be much appreciated.

TIA

Timothy Heald
Assistant Webmaster
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State

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