In 5 years of full-time CF development I have yet to pay for a CF tag ;-)
(read as "haven't needed to"...not "stolen them left right and
center"...hehe)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luis Lebron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: PHP versus CF Development Speed?


> I think that while it may be true that their is a lot of code for CF,
there
> is not a lot of free or open source code for CF. This is one place where
PHP
> or Perl have an advantage.
>
>
> Luis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: PHP versus CF Development Speed?
>
>
> > I think you're all missing the point if you think that more code =
> > longer development time.
> >
> > Remember, for PHP, there are massive script archives out there with
> > example code you can just grab and use. Even the function docs at
> > php.net are collaborative... a technique Macromedia has tried to
> > co-opt.
>
> Actually let's reverse that... The livedocs system in use at Macromedia
> was in use at Allaire in, I think 1998 (around when CF 3 had come out I
> think, but perhaps CF 4).
>
> It's a good idea and I think that everybody should co opt it, but when
> you shout
> "co-opted" then let's be sure who did what.
>
> > Any good developer has the basics (db connections, that sort of thing)
>
> > socked away in a little archive somewhere to reuse.
>
> This is true of any decent language... And has been one of the greatest
> strengths of CF for many years now.  The official tag gallery is only a
> stratching of the surface.  Sites like cflib.org, CFCZone.org, cfXtras,
> Cfcustomtags.com and so forth are also taking on their niches with a
> force.
>
> For any language the concept of "build-once, use often" hold true.
> However with PHP there is a sense that some very common tasks require
> that.
>
> The goal of CF from the start has been abstraction of complexity and the
> 80/20 rule.  Any functionality user commonly in Web Applications is made
> insanely simple in CF.
>
> This means that some rarely used functionality is left out (like direct
> socket access) but the point is that that IS rarely used.  For those
> that used functionality CF has made itself the most adaptable of
> languages: CFXs (in Java, C or Delphi), COM, CORBA, JSP Tags, Java
> Classes, etc.
>
> So CF also takes advantage of the code libraries and component archives
> of many other languages.
>
> Basically there's more crap out there that'll run on CF than any other
> language period.
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
>
> 
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