All I want to say hear to Micheal's post is this....

Just remember to keep in mind the difference between using Flash for a "web
site" vs. using Flash for an application.  HTML is fine for web site
navigation, but it was a step backward for application interfaces (i.e. from
traditional client-server apps).

So Flash will be great for the next generation of web app interfaces!!! ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.Com (The new site?)


> I have read their "what we learned" report and it makes fascinating
> reading.  They always said they take feedback seriously, and this shows
> how seriously they do take it.   It's interesting to see how they
> measure their performance and there are some lessons there for most of
> us I'd bet.
>
> For me, the new site's taken away all the issues I had with it.  I think
> if flash is going to be a viable alternative for general site navigation
> it has to address the issue of matching the user experience of html in
> terms of how the pages are used.
>
> It's no good saying "we don't need to adhere strictly to W3C standards -
> all developments have been done by people who went outside the
> standards" because there are a few things people have come to accept.
> Developments have almost all been enhancements or additional features.
> This interface as it was TOOK THINGS AWAY - no right click menus, no
> wheel support etc.
>
> Eventually, flash will have to address these things somehow, or it'll
> never be fully accepted as a means to navigate web sites.   Have a
> customer service department get 50 calls a day with people saying "your
> site doesn't work properly . I cant use my right mouse button" and
> you'll soon want to change your site back to the old way.  It's the
> users who determine what will be accepted on your site, not the
> developers.
>
> But as a graphic/animation/games mechanism, it's unsurpassed, and I
> honestly do hope that eventually it does have all these navigation
> components.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Michael Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> AFP Webworks.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 10:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Macromedia.Com (The new site?)
>
> Well, Macromedia has changed the site with the feedback they received
> from
> the community.
> http://www.macromedia.com
>
> Like it better? Worse?
>
> They also released a report about what they learned (good and bad) from
> the
> first week of the new site.
> http://www.macromedia.com/special/progress_report/
> (This is really interesting... you should read it..)
>
> Pablo
>
>
>
> 
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