This is a snippet of a response to the ZDNet article about
Macromedia.com, I thought I'd pass it along here as well ...

<RANT>

... with RIA applications you will inherently have a longer load time
because you're loading the entire application at once. With traditional
web applications you get page-by-page loads which is faster initially,
but overall I would imagine you sit and wait longer for traditional HTML
pages when all is said and done.

Think about it - 35 seconds to load an HTML page is slow, but to load 50
HTML pages it's pretty fast. That's what RIAs give you, the equivalent
of an entire application in one page load. Most users don't complain
about Microsoft Outlook taking 30 seconds to load, it's total lack of
accessibility features and it's generally sluggish behavior when doing
searches, etc. but when a web application doesn't load in 6 seconds and
the link to the second version of the site in HTML doesn't leap out and
grab your attention then everyone is up in arms. We're all accustomed to
looking at application splash screens while waiting for desktop
applications to load, why is it so outrageous for a web application to
do the same?

You have to realize, what Macromedia is doing is laying the groundwork
for a whole new way to create applications, you can't expect that type
of technology to be 100% from day 1. Eventually web applications will
behave almost identically to desktop applications and in most cases will
even replace them. I would hate to think that the future of software
would be based on HTML. Flash, server-side processing and RIAs are the
future of not only the web, but software as we know it. We need to be
helpful and supportive of this process instead of being so critical. 

With support and positive feedback this process can mature and grow,
Macromedia took their feedback and improved their product, that speaks
volumes about their commitment to the future and to their developers.

</RANT>

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia.Com (The new site?)


Ouch. ZDNet wasn't to kind about macromedia.com.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2131698,00.html

Again, the new version is much better and I hope ZDNet writes a
follow-up article on how Macromedia has graciously responded to all the
criticism.

But I do with Macromedia would stop touting this argument: "When you
move from an HTML world into a much richer desktop-oriented world,
that's a big change, and people just have difficulty with change," he
said. "Any time you change a Web site, there's an initial week or so
where people don't feel comfortable yet and you hear a lot of feedback."

It's bullshit. If there is one thing that can be said about web
developers, is that we are accustomed to change. From the tools we use
to the technology, everything changes constantly. We're just critical of
the wrong types of change, not change itself.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Macromedia.Com (The new site?)

Well, Macromedia has changed the site with the feedback they received
from the community. http://www.macromedia.com

Like it better? Worse?

They also released a report about what they learned (good and bad) from
the first week of the new site.
http://www.macromedia.com/special/progress_report/
(This is really interesting... you should read it..)

Pablo




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