Interesting - I'll have to tell the people for whom I implemented HeirMenus
that they might have to look out for that, thank you for the heads-up.
Oddly enough, I traded emails as well with Mr. Belesis about the licensing
terms, and got the "keep my name in there and it's free" directly from him.
However, implementing them saved us well more than $500 worth of time it
would have taken to build a similar system, so we ponied up for the fee -
and kept his name in as well. ;)

- Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DHTML dynamic drop down menus>>>


I was told - and this was in first few months after internet.com had taken
the rights to Hiermenus over - that they were going to apply the terms
retroactively, even to sites using the product where the licensing agreement
stated free use.  How they planned on not getting laughed out of a court
room is beyond me.

One developer on the hiermenus forum claimed she had written permission from
Peter Belesis (back before he handed control to internet.com) to use the
thing as purchased, and the internet.com folks insisted on added license
fees nonetheless.

I spoke with a couple of reps adamant about their legal right to do this.  I
was absolutely flabbergasted, and dropped them like a rock in favor of
Milonic.

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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:50:36 -0600

>Back when we I implemented HeirMenus on an old site, it cost $500 to deploy
>it without any mention of the author anywhere.  If you left the author's
>name in the JavaScript source blocks and a short URL as to where to
download
>HeirMenus, it was free.  I'll have to see if that acknowledgement clause is
>still active.
>
>- Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:43 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: DHTML dynamic drop down menus>>>
>
>
>Joshua wrote:
>>Have you looked at HeirMenus ???
>
>Have you *priced* Hiermenus?
>
>It stopped being free about a year ago.  Its been discussed here and
>elsewhere that they've quoted prices in the US$1500 range for a commercial
>site.  For that site I mentioned earlier, a non-profit organization, they
>were going to do me the favor of only charging me a discount rate of
US$995.
>
>Idiots probably had the market/mindshare lead at the time.  They got greedy
>and pooped it away.
>
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> Matt Robertson,     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:28:58 -0500
>
>>Have you looked at HeirMenus ???
>>http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/hiermenus/
>>
>>Joshua Miller
>>Head Programmer / IT Manager
>>Garrison Enterprises Inc.
>>www.garrisonenterprises.net
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>>(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:56 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: SOT: DHTML dynamic drop down menus>>>
>>
>>
>>Are there any DHTML drop-down menus that can align their respective
>>submenus automatically?
>>
>>I know this has been covered many times before, but I've looked through
>>the archives and didn't really find what i'm looking for:
>>
>>We currently use milonic menus, but i want to dynamically generate menus
>>from ColdFusion, and with milonic, you have to give a height to each
>>submenu to tell them where to start from the top of the browser.
>>
>>This is an Internet Explorer-only application already, so I'm open to
>>almost anything...TIA-
>>
>>Tyler
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