Well, I've been using CF5 to make a living. I guess I'm expecting too
much that a product should install with relative ease. There are enough
challenges when using an application server that installs properly. I
would just fell silly if I upgraded to MX for no real reason, and it
cost me a bunch of hours/money/clients. When I get some freetime I'll
try it on a dev server or something.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Quick note from the CF Team....


Wow Greg where have you been? :-)

As with pretty much anything out there... you're always going to run
into issues.  Some people are having problems (those are the ones you
hear about) and some people don't have any (typically the ones you DON'T
hear about).

Several clients of mine have recently upgraded to CFMX in the past few
months without issue.  Some chose to take the opportunity to upgrade
hardware as well and therefore they built a brand new box with a brand
new install of Windows 2000 and CFMX.  No problems at all.  Other
clients upgraded their existing CF5.0 boxes and also didn't have any
problems with the upgrade/install.  They also did not have any problems
with any of the updaters so far.  The only issues I've personally seen
with my clients have been purely with code... typically bad coding
practices which needed to be fixed.  After the initial brain damage was
over (finding/fixing code) they have not had any problems.

Let's face it, it's a gamble any time you install anything new, update
code, or write new code.  That's why we have development boxes and
production boxes.  I strongly recommend to all of my clients that they
upgrade their production boxes first and let them run for several weeks
before they even think of touching their production boxes... and even
then... as always... BACK UP YOUR PRODUCTION SERVERS JUST IN CASE.  It's
amazing how many people don't want to take the time to back things up.

-Novak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Luce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team....


> Holy crap! I was just about to look into upgrading some servers 
> starting Monday. There are still issues installing MX? WTF? Was MX 
> released without proper beta-testing? People are being left with their

> arse hanging out? Yikes. Between the crazy new MM website rollout, and

> folks still having issues just trying to get the app installed, how do

> I justify the risk of upgrading? It sounds like a huge can of worms.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Quick note from the CF Team....
>
>
> Is he having a problem with the SQL services not starting after UD3 is

> put in? If so, it's a very rare error that I've experienced and can 
> walk him through. If not....
>
>
> > Thank you Damon, and I'd be expecting nothing less from a company 
> > with
>
> > a superior product wanting to deliver superior service.
> >
> > So what do I tell my Sysadmin who still can't install Updater3 after

> > 3
>
> > weeks now?  Do we have to reformat our hard drive and then reinstall

> > everything else, then reload all the web sites and then retest them 
> > all?
> >
> > What happens when I need to install CFMX on my other dev server, and

> > it doesn't have a raw, unmodified WinXPPro because it's had MS 
> > updaters and security patches applied?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael Kear
> > Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > AFP Webworks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, 2 June 2003 9:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Quick note from the CF Team....
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Let me just jump in here and say that, on behalf of the ColdFusion 
> > team, we care very much about configuration and other issues that 
> > customers have told us about, and we've been working very, very hard

> > over the last several months to systematically gather, categorize, 
> > prioritize, hunt down and address them, one-by-one.
> >
> > We've scoured the forums, CF-Talk, our own Bug Tracker, Tech Support

> > logs and other sources going back to the CF 3.0 days and beyond to 
> > make sure we focused energy on the issues customers have told us 
> > matter most to them, and with the full-team focus we've been able to

> > dedicate to this effort, I'm convinced we are about to enter a very 
> > exciting period for Internet application developers, and a virtual 
> > re-birth of the ColdFusion product.
> >
> > These next few months are going to be an exciting time to be a 
> > ColdFusion customer.  Not since ColdFusion 5 have I witnessed such 
> > total determination and single-minded, team-wide laser-focus on 
> > raising the ColdFusion customer satisfaction bar.  With the full 
> > support of executive management and the blessing of our customer 
> > advisory board, we've focused significant energy in improving the 
> > things you told us to focus on.
> >
> > Let me also add that I'm very proud to be working for one of the 
> > most dedicated, customer- and quality-focused software development 
> > teams on
>
> > the planet, bar none.  I sincerely hope that as soon as we can get 
> > the
>
> > fruits of this work out to you, you'll agree that we really are 
> > listening to you, and we're not going to stop.  Without you, we 
> > might as well pack it up and go home.  We know you depend on us to 
> > deliver high quality products for delivering powerful Internet apps 
> > of all shapes and sizes, faster and easier than any competing 
> > technology, so please keep the feedback coming.  This is your 
> > product.
> >
> >
> > Damon Cooper
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Dir Engeering, CF
> > 617-219-2025
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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