Well how else was I to interpret it? For the last 36 hours I have been trying to get help for the Sysadmin at the datacentre I lease space from, it's 13,000 km away from here. It's not MY system, it's the one I use, and I'm trying to help them get THEIR problem fixed, because (a) I think I should and (b) the problem is affecting me and my clients.
Despite everything I say, I've had one person after another saying I shouldn't be using WinXP for production server (I'm not and never said I was) or that I should use Win2K on my dev environment instead (my dev server's working fine I'm not going to mess with it) or similar things. And now Tony says "well **I** managed to do it fine TEN times perfectly." Why would he say that if he didn't also mean to imply "... and there must be something wrong with you if you can't do it too." Not only that, he went on to say how any time he had a problem "...but you know what, I figure it out and fix it...". The implication being that I should have just figured it out too. And the implication follows that if I couldn't work it out I was a lesser person than he. It was a straight-out criticism of me for (a) having a problem and (b) not being able to work out the solution all by myself. Damn right I'm going to take offence at that. Tony was right out of order. Bryan you were very helpful back when I had my problems installing CFMX. **I** don't have the problems any more. I've said that now at least a DOZEN times. I am trying to help SOMEONE ELSE who does!!! And so, thank God, is Macromedia. Hands up anyone who would have thought not having enough colours on the server's display settings would have killed an installation?? Who's going to be brave enough to say they would have picked that? Tony Weeg? Huh? Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 9:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Quick note from the CF Team.... Whoa Mike...I think ya better calm down. I didn't get that kind of inference from Tony at all. He said "no offence" didn't he. He's just saying "sh!t happens and sometimes it's beyond your control". I'm not using XP but I can also say that I have yet to have a single install issue with MX (although I've seen alot of folks on this list that have). There are how many different settings on any given computer? how many apps that could be installed that could effect the install? Any 1 minor thing could potentially be the issue. Tony's not calling anyone stupid....neither am I...but I sure hate nasty people that slag others. It's only MOnday Mike...hang in there...lotsa days still to get through this week. Best of luck with your issues if you still have them. Wish I could help but I'm on Win2K Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team.... > That's great Tony. Where were you when we were all stumped? We needed your > advice back then. I still have all the 110 messages on that issue. Not one > from you. I'm sure we could have used your expertise when Dave Watts was > ferreting around in my system trying to locate the issue. And Chris Kief. > I wish you had been willing to help me when Dave and Chris were so dumb they > couldn't work it out. > > You are one of the lucky majority. You installed and it worked ok. > > But I do resent your suggestion that I was incompetent or careless by > installing CFMX on a brand new, barebones WinXPPro system with hardly > anything installed on it and was SOOO idiotic that I couldn't click > "install" correctly. > > How simple it is to be a Monday-morning coach when you don't have the > problem yourself. Everyone send Tony a lollipop because he is so expert > that he has never had any problem he can't solve without help. > > You installed it 10 times with no problems. Well clever boy. So what are > you saying? I imagined it? That I am wrong - there was no problem at all? > That I was so stupid I got it wrong putting a CD in my drive and clicking > "Install CF"? Since you are here bragging ... why don't you just tell us > all where I was wrong then. > > > I belong to this list because it's a valuable source of excellent > information. I asked for help because I was having a problem that was > driving me CRAZY. And ever since I've had one person after another trying > to show how stupid I must be to be unable to install ColdFusion. Or that I > must be a real moron for the way I have my business set up, (and you've > usually got it all wrong). > > If someone asks for help here, then give them help if you think you know > what the problem is. But knock off the smartass criticism. It reflects > pretty poorly on you and shows how small you really are. > > > Michael Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > AFP Webworks. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 8:28 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team.... > > i have installed cfmx, 10 times at least on a winxp > pro dell laptop with iis5 and some xp updates, some of the > xp patches, cfmxu3 and guess what???? > > *********EVERYTHING INSTALLED ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY WITH NO > PROBLEMS********** > > im a firm believer in the term PEBKAC > > there are just certain things and certain times when things just > dont go right, they are always logical, this is a computer, 1's and 0's > and for the life of me i will never imagine what happens inside > those chips in my servers...but you know what, i figure it out and > fix it...there is usually something at the end that i didnt do right, > that made the problem happen. > > no offense to anyone, because we all make mistakes... > > but thats just mu > > by the way damon. cf. rock on. > y'all got a good thing going there...cheers > > we here @ navtrak leave eat sleep and dream in a {^(cf|flash)mx;} kinda > way > > tony > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. 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