::blink:: remind me never to get Mike mad at me. But yeah. What he said. I've been following the thread without comment because gee, I'm a newbie and I don't know, but I have to agree, the cause seems FAR from obvious.
Dana Mike Kear writes: > Well how else was I to interpret it? For the last 36 hours I have been > trying to get help for the Sysadmin at the datacentre I lease space from, > it's 13,000 km away from here. It's not MY system, it's the one I use, and > I'm trying to help them get THEIR problem fixed, because (a) I think I > should and (b) the problem is affecting me and my clients. > > Despite everything I say, I've had one person after another saying I > shouldn't be using WinXP for production server (I'm not and never said I > was) or that I should use Win2K on my dev environment instead (my dev > server's working fine I'm not going to mess with it) or similar things. > > And now Tony says "well **I** managed to do it fine TEN times perfectly." > Why would he say that if he didn't also mean to imply "... and there must be > something wrong with you if you can't do it too." > > Not only that, he went on to say how any time he had a problem "...but you > know what, I figure it out and fix it...". The implication being that I > should have just figured it out too. And the implication follows that if I > couldn't work it out I was a lesser person than he. > > It was a straight-out criticism of me for (a) having a problem and (b) not > being able to work out the solution all by myself. > > Damn right I'm going to take offence at that. Tony was right out of order. > > Bryan you were very helpful back when I had my problems installing CFMX. > **I** don't have the problems any more. I've said that now at least a DOZEN > times. I am trying to help SOMEONE ELSE who does!!! And so, thank God, is > Macromedia. Hands up anyone who would have thought not having enough > colours on the server's display settings would have killed an installation?? > Who's going to be brave enough to say they would have picked that? Tony > Weeg? Huh? > > > > Cheers, > Michael Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > AFP Webworks. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 9:35 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Quick note from the CF Team.... > > Whoa Mike...I think ya better calm down. I didn't get that kind of > inference from Tony at all. He said "no offence" didn't he. He's just > saying "sh!t happens and sometimes it's beyond your control". > > I'm not using XP but I can also say that I have yet to have a single install > issue with MX (although I've seen alot of folks on this list that have). > There are how many different settings on any given computer? how many apps > that could be installed that could effect the install? Any 1 minor thing > could potentially be the issue. > > Tony's not calling anyone stupid....neither am I...but I sure hate nasty > people that slag others. > > It's only MOnday Mike...hang in there...lotsa days still to get through this > week. > > Best of luck with your issues if you still have them. Wish I could help but > I'm on Win2K > > Cheers > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team.... > > > > That's great Tony. Where were you when we were all stumped? We needed > your > > advice back then. I still have all the 110 messages on that issue. Not > one > > from you. I'm sure we could have used your expertise when Dave Watts was > > ferreting around in my system trying to locate the issue. And Chris Kief. > > I wish you had been willing to help me when Dave and Chris were so dumb > they > > couldn't work it out. > > > > You are one of the lucky majority. You installed and it worked ok. > > > > But I do resent your suggestion that I was incompetent or careless by > > installing CFMX on a brand new, barebones WinXPPro system with hardly > > anything installed on it and was SOOO idiotic that I couldn't click > > "install" correctly. > > > > How simple it is to be a Monday-morning coach when you don't have the > > problem yourself. Everyone send Tony a lollipop because he is so expert > > that he has never had any problem he can't solve without help. > > > > You installed it 10 times with no problems. Well clever boy. So what are > > you saying? I imagined it? That I am wrong - there was no problem at all? > > That I was so stupid I got it wrong putting a CD in my drive and clicking > > "Install CF"? Since you are here bragging ... why don't you just tell us > > all where I was wrong then. > > > > > > I belong to this list because it's a valuable source of excellent > > information. I asked for help because I was having a problem that was > > driving me CRAZY. And ever since I've had one person after another trying > > to show how stupid I must be to be unable to install ColdFusion. Or that > I > > must be a real moron for the way I have my business set up, (and you've > > usually got it all wrong). > > > > If someone asks for help here, then give them help if you think you know > > what the problem is. But knock off the smartass criticism. It reflects > > pretty poorly on you and shows how small you really are. > > > > > > Michael Kear > > Windsor, NSW, Australia > > AFP Webworks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 8:28 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team.... > > > > i have installed cfmx, 10 times at least on a winxp > > pro dell laptop with iis5 and some xp updates, some of the > > xp patches, cfmxu3 and guess what???? > > > > *********EVERYTHING INSTALLED ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY WITH NO > > PROBLEMS********** > > > > im a firm believer in the term PEBKAC > > > > there are just certain things and certain times when things just > > dont go right, they are always logical, this is a computer, 1's and 0's > > and for the life of me i will never imagine what happens inside > > those chips in my servers...but you know what, i figure it out and > > fix it...there is usually something at the end that i didnt do right, > > that made the problem happen. > > > > no offense to anyone, because we all make mistakes... > > > > but thats just mu > > > > by the way damon. cf. rock on. > > y'all got a good thing going there...cheers > > > > we here @ navtrak leave eat sleep and dream in a {^(cf|flash)mx;} kinda > > way > > > > tony > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. 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