I think Tony's point wasn't that he was so great or Mike was not-so-great, but to provide positive feedback to the MM folks that hey, not everyone is having problems.
This doesn't diminish Mike's problems, or his friend's problems, but does help provide a balanced viewpoint on the installation issues surrounding CFMX on XP. Overall, problems seem to be in the minority. That doesn't mean they don't suck when they happen, it just means that most folks can expect a smooth install. There is nothing to get worked up and angry about for anyone here. Just as an FYI, It installed fine on numerous XP boxes for me as well. And I'd like to echo Tony's sentiments that CF rocks! Calvin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Re: Quick note from the CF Team.... > I dunno... this is turning into personal remarks and we are on talk here > but uh... I really hate it when I try to discuss a bug and am airily told > well, stuff happens. I remember spending a whole weekend trying to set up > mysql because the hosting guy said "just type this and it will work," and > rushed out the door at 4:30 on a Friday. On Monday it turned out that he > had misunderstood my setup. Well, I was evaluating them and guess what, we > are with someone else now. I remember doing QA and the developers saying > well no wonder it crashed. Yeah, it crashed, gave an incomprehensible > message and lost all data. While it may be reasonable at times for things > to not work or to crash it is really really nice when the user gets a clue > what is wrong :P > > I guess I am saying that if it's supposed to work on XP, then it should. If > a significant number of people have trouble installing it then that's a > problem. > > my .02 > Dana > > > > Bryan Stevenson writes: > > > Whoa Mike...I think ya better calm down. I didn't get that kind of > > inference from Tony at all. He said "no offence" didn't he. He's just > > saying "sh!t happens and sometimes it's beyond your control". > > > > I'm not using XP but I can also say that I have yet to have a single install > > issue with MX (although I've seen alot of folks on this list that have). > > There are how many different settings on any given computer? how many apps > > that could be installed that could effect the install? Any 1 minor thing > > could potentially be the issue. > > > > Tony's not calling anyone stupid....neither am I...but I sure hate nasty > > people that slag others. > > > > It's only MOnday Mike...hang in there...lotsa days still to get through this > > week. > > > > Best of luck with your issues if you still have them. Wish I could help but > > I'm on Win2K > > > > Cheers > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > t. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > Founder & Director > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:06 PM > > Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team.... > > > > > > > That's great Tony. Where were you when we were all stumped? We needed > > your > > > advice back then. I still have all the 110 messages on that issue. Not > > one > > > from you. I'm sure we could have used your expertise when Dave Watts was > > > ferreting around in my system trying to locate the issue. And Chris Kief. > > > I wish you had been willing to help me when Dave and Chris were so dumb > > they > > > couldn't work it out. > > > > > > You are one of the lucky majority. You installed and it worked ok. > > > > > > But I do resent your suggestion that I was incompetent or careless by > > > installing CFMX on a brand new, barebones WinXPPro system with hardly > > > anything installed on it and was SOOO idiotic that I couldn't click > > > "install" correctly. > > > > > > How simple it is to be a Monday-morning coach when you don't have the > > > problem yourself. Everyone send Tony a lollipop because he is so expert > > > that he has never had any problem he can't solve without help. > > > > > > You installed it 10 times with no problems. Well clever boy. So what are > > > you saying? I imagined it? That I am wrong - there was no problem at all? > > > That I was so stupid I got it wrong putting a CD in my drive and clicking > > > "Install CF"? Since you are here bragging ... why don't you just tell us > > > all where I was wrong then. > > > > > > > > > I belong to this list because it's a valuable source of excellent > > > information. I asked for help because I was having a problem that was > > > driving me CRAZY. And ever since I've had one person after another trying > > > to show how stupid I must be to be unable to install ColdFusion. Or that > > I > > > must be a real moron for the way I have my business set up, (and you've > > > usually got it all wrong). > > > > > > If someone asks for help here, then give them help if you think you know > > > what the problem is. But knock off the smartass criticism. It reflects > > > pretty poorly on you and shows how small you really are. > > > > > > > > > Michael Kear > > > Windsor, NSW, Australia > > > AFP Webworks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 8:28 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Quick note from the CF Team.... > > > > > > i have installed cfmx, 10 times at least on a winxp > > > pro dell laptop with iis5 and some xp updates, some of the > > > xp patches, cfmxu3 and guess what???? > > > > > > *********EVERYTHING INSTALLED ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY WITH NO > > > PROBLEMS********** > > > > > > im a firm believer in the term PEBKAC > > > > > > there are just certain things and certain times when things just > > > dont go right, they are always logical, this is a computer, 1's and 0's > > > and for the life of me i will never imagine what happens inside > > > those chips in my servers...but you know what, i figure it out and > > > fix it...there is usually something at the end that i didnt do right, > > > that made the problem happen. > > > > > > no offense to anyone, because we all make mistakes... > > > > > > but thats just mu > > > > > > by the way damon. cf. rock on. > > > y'all got a good thing going there...cheers > > > > > > we here @ navtrak leave eat sleep and dream in a {^(cf|flash)mx;} kinda > > > way > > > > > > tony > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
