I may be mistaken but I think the only time you'll see the JRE listed in
the add/remove programs is if you've installed the JRE/SDK yourself
separately.

-Stace

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Update on the Installer "Freeze" & Failure to Auto-Start on
Windo ws Issues...

Thanks for the communication, Damon.

I am sure many of us are excited about a soon-to-come solution.  I know
I am.  I
am sure it will help Michael's blood pressure as well! <g>

The less-than 256 bit color display is reproducible on most any machine,
by
switching to the default vga driver.   You can always change it back
after
testing, regardless of the video card setup.

I just checked the Add/remove listing on my developer box (Win2k) and
see that
Java 2 runtime Environment, SE shows both v1.4.0_01 and v1.4.0_03.  I
don't see
a listing for java runtime on either my Win2k server (CF 5.0) or my
Win2003
server (CFMX Pro)  I have no idea is this has any significance at all.

Most hosting providers will leave the default video driver in place, to
reduce
resource requirements while the server is up and running, however, it is
not
much of a problem to switch to 256 colors (or more) when install
packages
require it.  Most of them do, from what I have seen.  Important here is
that the
installer kick up an error message if the color setting is not high
enough.  I
have seen this "reminder" a number of times.

I, for one will be glad to test whatever scenario you come up with.

Jochem accessed my Win2003 server, remotely,  yesterday and successfully
installed CFMXPro on the machine  and while it is installed as a
stand-alone, it
did complete the install with updater 3, and rebooted without the
freeze-up
experienced before.  I am going to test this procedure a few more times,
to make
sure I have the steps in the correct order and down pat.  In the
meantime, I
want to install a web site that uses CFMX for non-critical test purposes
and
continue the saga.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I am not experiencing this with
Linux/Apache
installs.  These are no-brainers compared to the Windows issues.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Damon Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Update on the Installer "Freeze" & Failure to Auto-Start on
Windo ws
Issues...


| I've not had the cycles to keep up with the feeding frenzy this has
turned
into, but I thought I'd update everyone on where we are regarding the 2
issues
reported and discussed here at the one machine at Mike's hosting site:
|
| 1) ZeroG Java-based Updater installer hang.
|
| It took us a little while to track this down (we had to find a machine
with
less-than 8-bit color display capability...harder than you'd think these
days).
|
| Here's the scoop:
|
| a) For the GUI-based installer, a minimum of 8-bit color depth (256
colors) is
required to run InstallAnywhere-based installers. Additionally,
installers
require a minimum 640 X 480 screen resolution.
|
| b) The Updater installer can be invoked in "silent" mode on Windows,
if you
have a machine that doesn't meet (a) above for the GUI install, or (b)
you have
a need to apply the Updater to many machines via batch scripts, etc,
etc.
Follow the instructions here for a "silent" install:
|
|
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/releasenote
s_mx_updater03.html#silentinstall
|
|
| 2) CF not automatically starting reliably on Windows after system
reboot:
|
| We had 3 engineers working this all day Friday, and we believe we have
a
reproducible case, and have started debugging the process to see what's
happening.
|
| One of the things we're about to try is to simply switch Java VM's to
see if
this is the result of a Java VM bug (we've had several in the
interacting-with-Windows-as-a-Service area before, so we're not ruling
that out,
and it's a quick thing to try.  Recall that the CFMX Gold bits shipped
out of
the box with the Sun 1.3.1_03 VM.  Trying the 1.3.1_08 VM, the 1.4.1_03
VM and
the 1.4.2 Beta VM will determine whether it's something that's fixed in
the VM.
If anyone on this list is experiencing the issue, and wants to try these
VM's
and report back, that would be a big help, and you can participate in
helping to
move this issue forward.
|
| More to come, when we know more (likely Monday EOD sometime)...
|
| Thanks for your patience.
|
| Damon
|
|
| 

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