This is very good news. Please keep us posted. -Novak
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stacy Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: RE: Update on the Installer "Freeze" & Failure to Auto-Start on W indows Issues... > Not much else I can say but, kick a$$ ! ;) > > -Stace > > -----Original Message----- > From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:42 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Update on the Installer "Freeze" & Failure to Auto-Start on > W indows Issues... > > One more update: > > We believe we at least somewhat understand the "CFMX doesn't startup on > reboot" issue as recreated on the machines in house here. > > To summarize (and I'm sure I'm whitewashing some of this): > > 1) The CFMX App Server is an native Windows executable wrapper that is > the main "ColdFusion MX Application Server" service. > 2) It controls, starts, stops, and monitors the main "jrun.exe" > executable that CFMX is runs on. > 3) The wrapper executable has separate timeout values for both starting > and stopping the main "jrun.exe" executable. Both timeout values are > currently hardwired to 20 seconds. > 4) On machines with a lot going on during startup, or complex services > dependencies, or slow machines, the "jrun.exe" executable can exceed the > 20 second timeout in successfully starting. When this timeout is > exceeded, the Service wrapper executable "gives up", returns a failure > code and CFMX is not started. > 5) If, when CFMX is told to shutdown (via the Services Control Panel, or > via command, or when an Updater installer tells it to shutdown), the > "jrun.exe" exceeds the Service wrapper's shutdown timeout (20 sec), the > wrapper returns a failure code and gives up. > > When we extend the startup timeout of the Service wrapper executable (we > give it some patience), "jrun.exe" and CFMX eventually startup fine, but > it may take some extra time. Same for shutdown in most cases. > > So............... > > We're testing a fix to the wrapper that a) raises the default timeout > for both operations, and making these values configurable via a setting > (registry, XML file, whatever). It seems to work in all cases so far, > and we hope to get it to Mike's hoster guy to try shortly (he may > already have it now). > > Finally, as extra shutdown insurance, we may optionally allow the > shutdown code of the Service wrapper to do a forced shutdown of the > "jrun.exe" if the (now extended, configurable) timeout expires. As soon > as we have a good hotfix, we'll try to make it generally available ASAP. > > > > Sorry about all this, and thanks for hanging with us... > > Damon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Damon Cooper > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:16 AM > To: 'CF-Talk '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Update on the Installer "Freeze" & Failure to Auto-Start on > Windows Issues... > > > Quick update: > > Switching JVM's didn't have any affect on our test machine exhibiting > the problem. We do get "Error Number 2" errors in the System Event Log, > however, which indicate "The system cannot find the file specified." > This could be due to the fact that a socket open failed (TCP sockets are > OS "files") due to the OS network layer not being ready for us, or we > were impatient with a short timeout, and may need to sleep & retry the > open and/or use a longer timeout. > > We continue to actively work this today. More to come... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Damon Cooper > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:42 AM > To: 'CF-Talk ' > Subject: Update on the Installer "Freeze" & Failure to Auto-Start on > Windows Issues... > > > I've not had the cycles to keep up with the feeding frenzy this has > turned into, but I thought I'd update everyone on where we are regarding > the 2 issues reported and discussed here at the one machine at Mike's > hosting site: > > 1) ZeroG Java-based Updater installer hang. > > It took us a little while to track this down (we had to find a machine > with less-than 8-bit color display capability...harder than you'd think > these days). > > Here's the scoop: > > a) For the GUI-based installer, a minimum of 8-bit color depth (256 > colors) is required to run InstallAnywhere-based installers. > Additionally, installers require a minimum 640 X 480 screen resolution. > > > b) The Updater installer can be invoked in "silent" mode on Windows, if > you have a machine that doesn't meet (a) above for the GUI install, or > (b) you have a need to apply the Updater to many machines via batch > scripts, etc, etc. Follow the instructions here for a "silent" install: > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/releasenote > s_mx_updater03.html#silentinstall > > > 2) CF not automatically starting reliably on Windows after system > reboot: > > We had 3 engineers working this all day Friday, and we believe we have a > reproducible case, and have started debugging the process to see what's > happening. > > One of the things we're about to try is to simply switch Java VM's to > see if this is the result of a Java VM bug (we've had several in the > interacting-with-Windows-as-a-Service area before, so we're not ruling > that out, and it's a quick thing to try. Recall that the CFMX Gold bits > shipped out of the box with the Sun 1.3.1_03 VM. Trying the 1.3.1_08 > VM, the 1.4.1_03 VM and the 1.4.2 Beta VM will determine whether it's > something that's fixed in the VM. If anyone on this list is > experiencing the issue, and wants to try these VM's and report back, > that would be a big help, and you can participate in helping to move > this issue forward. > > More to come, when we know more (likely Monday EOD sometime)... > > Thanks for your patience. > > Damon > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
