Rafael, the pros and cons were debated a good bit last month here. Check out the archives for several notes on 5/13-15 on the subject "CFML versus .NET" and "Re: Support for CFML : Was Re: CFML versus .NET".
Of course, our website is chock full of resources to help layout those pros and cons, and indeed the challenges (in the Compatibility Guide). We also offer a BlueDragon-Interest list where both New Atlanta engineers and customers discuss the product in a friendly, responsive environment. As for MX features, again, the bulk of those are slated for our Release 4 version, later this year, though some will make it into 3.1, and indeed some are there already. We offer the ability to do server-side redirects (forwards), use J2EE sessions, run JSP pages alongside CFML templates (in all but the free Server edition), and that JSP/servlet support extends to forwarding/including between CFML and JSP/servlets as well as sharing session, application, and request variables, and more). Add to that our J2EE solution (allowing deployment on a J2EE server, rather than install a standalone server) and our coming .NET solution (allowing deployment on a .NET server, again rather than a standalone server, giving all those same integration possibilities with .NET and also opening the door to leverage .NET framework components, resources, and approaches), and the point is that BlueDragon just fills in gaps for those who need them filled. As for running the two alongside each other, sure you can. Installing BD won't "overwrite" your CF installation at all (whether CF 4, 5, or MX). CF and BlueDragon Server (and Server JX) are each standalone, independent services. And just as with CFMX, you can choose to install BlueDragon with its own web server (in which case you'd use port 8080 on your URLs by default to run code in BlueDragon's webroot), in which case it has its own webroot where you place your CFML templates. Or you can integrate it with IIS, Apache, and more. (If not using the built-in web server, the free edition is limited to IIS on Windows and Apache on Linux.) In that case, your CFML templates would typically go in the webroot of the web server (such as inetpub/wwwroot on IIS). Of course, both CF (4, 5, and MX) and BlueDragon Server (and JX) will set themselves as the default service for running .cfm templates on the given web server if you do choose that web server integration. So if you already use CF 5 with IIS, for instance, you wouldn't want to install BD and its IIS adapter (just as you couldn't keep CF 5 and run CFMX via IIS). It is possible to configure individual applications in IIS, for instance, to allow different virtual directories to have .cfm templates processed different ways. I'll be working up a whitepaper on that topic soon. But other than that, no, the installation of BlueDragon should have no impact on an existing CF 5 (or indeed MX) installation at all. Check it out. With the free trial and developer edition (not to mention the Server edition being free for deployment), it's easy to get started and see how things work without impact on existing operations. It even automatically detects and loads your CF datasources, making it even easier. Just copy your CF code into the appropriate webroot and see how it goes. Indeed, I plan another white paper on how to configure your environment to allow different implementations of BlueDragon and CF to all point to the same CFML code base in a single location, when one wants to do regression testing against them all. Several customers do it already. But again, our real goal is to help people solve the challenge when faced with a migration to J2EE and .NET. With BlueDragon, we make CFML the only language that offers native integration on these industry standard platforms. /charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:36 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > As someone who has been running CF 5 Enterprise very succssfully, I'm > curious as to the pros and cons, challenges that lie ahead if I were to > consider moving to The Dragaon. I'm excited by it's potential, > especially > if MX functionality will be included - MX has some great features and > functionality I've been hearing about, reading threads on. > > In any regard, because I'm no longer the big company, just a guy > struggling > to find a way to rescussitate what would be a viable company > somehow again, > and have ZERO money for MX. > > My biggest question is - if I've already got a copy of CF 5 Enterprise, > would I need to do a fresh install with the Blue Dragon, or could I > over-write the server? If so, would I lose any of the settings? > > > > At 11:09 AM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote: > >Right, BlueDragon currently lacks support for Verity, Crystal Reports, > >CFASSOCIATE, CFAUTHENTICATE, CFIMPERSONATE, CFAPPLET, and CFGRID tags. If > >you need those, BD is not currently a solution for you. > > > >We're slated to add CFASSOCIATE in our 3.1 version. The rest > just don't have > >the demand. > > > >There are a handful of functions (authentication, locale-specific, and a > >couple others) as well as just a few other issues that, again, > we're working > >on for 3.1. And support for more CFMX features is coming in 4. > For more on > >compatibility, see > >http://www.newatlanta.com/downloads/bluedragon/3_0_2/BlueDragon_3 > 02_CFML_Com > >patibility_Guide.pdf > > > >I think a lot of people would be surprised to find how far BlueDragon has > >come in its compatibility. > > > >/charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:40 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > > > > > > > Hi Charlie....yep, I am aware of BD, but its not 100% full > featured AKAIK > > > compared to CF5 and we need stay on MM :-) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Charlie Arehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 14 June 2003 15:39 > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > > > > > > > FWIW, BlueDragon can be downloaded with no IP restriction for > the first 30 > > > days, after which it turns into a single-IP developer edition. See > > > http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/download/home. > > > > > > Besides being substantially compatible with CF5, it also offers many > > > benefits of CFMX (since it, too, is based on a J2EE platform). > > > > > > This isn't a sales pitch (since the Server edition is free for > > > deployment), > > > just a mention of technological alternative whose mention seemed > > > appropriate > > > in the context of this thread (someone looking for a means to run > > > CF5 code). > > > > > > /charlie > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:29 AM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > But can you not get the full Enterprise Edition rather than the > > > Single IP > > > > restrictor? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Deb Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 14 June 2003 14:28 > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html > > > > Third link from the bottom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 5:30 AM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone know if you can still download CF5 Enterprise Trial > > > > edition? if so, > > > > > where can you get it?!?!?!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. 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