WOW... I decided to actually go out to the park today after working 185 or 190 hours over the past two weeks, and the CFMX/BD thread went deep while I was gone!!!
OK - so after all that I've read, I still sit here with a fifty fifty issue, EXCEPT - Did I read correctly? BD's CFQUERY does NOT natively allow escaping single-quotes? THAT alone would force me to find a way to come up with the money for MX... I put five years into developing my own proprietary site deployment and content management system, evolved into CF5. From the BD compatability chart, all looked excellent for me to migrate until I read that about single quotes... I would hate to think of the hours it would take just to pour over every one of my generator's code looking for where this might crash any one of the over fifty components I've got in it. Just to pluck my own feathers, I'm truly grateful that though I came to CF with NO programming knowledge or experience, the fact that I was the Project manager with Mike Dinowitz and Vito Foraci being the coders on some huge sites got me thinking and processing web dev LIKE a real programmer... and it wasnt til I bailed from Computer Associates (11 months after Mike KNEW intuitively to move on) that I actually started doing my own coding.... So of course Mike and Vito lived by CF even back then, and it was only natural that I started with CF... And from the beginning, I implemented Clean Code practices, proper nesting practices, and splitting up my work to where my generator does make extensive use of seperation - one page has a web form, another has the queries, and in many cases a third has the output... Every site and every component I implement uses CFINCLUDE for headers and footers, AND navigation... and application.cfm was a Godsend to me!!! So why all the diatribes? The bottom line is, I'm just one guy... At peak I've been able to work on upwards of five, six or even seven sites at a time because of my training ground AND because of CF's far superiority at the learning curve - had I EVER needed to learn ASP or Java, I'd have bailed years ago... but with regard to something that I consider VITAL, like escaping single quotes, like I said, I'm already putting in 12 to 18 hours a day.. I'd just never have the time to go backwards over my work. At 10:29 PM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote: >Sean, I wasn't denying that there was more than just those tags I'd listed. >In the next paragraph I said: > > > There are a handful of functions (authentication, locale-specific, and a > > couple others) as well as just a few other issues that, again, we're >working > > on for 3.1. And support for more CFMX features is coming in 4. For more on > > compatibility, see ... > >The few items you listed as continuing issues were among those I was >referring to above. I know you're just trying to ensure that each side is >represented completely. I was relying on the document to explain the issues >rather than draw it out here. My focus mostly has been to communicate the >issues that may not be as obviously answered in the docs (or perhaps just >not sought as likely by most people) such as getting folks to appreciate the >architectural and other differences. > >And I wasn't trying to hide what isn't in the free edition (which are a >handful of connectivity tags). It just didn't seem relevant to the >discussion. And even Ben has often pointed out how 80% of people use only >20% of tags, or something to that effect. > >Indeed, Allaire's CF Express had limitations, too. But we allow way more >than it did, including: CFCACHE, CFCONTENT, CFDIRECTORY, CFERROR, CFFILE, >CFFORM/CFINPUT, and CFHEADER to name just a few. Heck, Express didn't even >allow CFMAIL. (For those interested in more about what CF Express didn't >allow, see >http://www.macromedia.com/v1/documents/cf4/acrobatdocs/40langrefe.pdf.) > >So really, I think most people would find the free Server edition to be more >than adequate for most CFML apps. But, again, it's clearly not our raison >d'etre. It's just a solution to help preserve the vitality of CFML for those >who can't afford $1300 for CF 5 or MX, or $549 for our Server JX product >(which besides adding those tags you mentioned also allows running JSPs >alongside CFML templates and lots of other MX-like J2EE-based features.) > >/charlie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:46 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: ColdFusion 5 Trial > > > > > > On Saturday, Jun 14, 2003, at 08:09 US/Pacific, Charlie Arehart wrote: > > > Right, BlueDragon currently lacks support for Verity, Crystal Reports, > > > CFASSOCIATE, CFAUTHENTICATE, CFIMPERSONATE, CFAPPLET, and CFGRID tags. > > > If > > > you need those, BD is not currently a solution for you. > > > > There's also quite a few attributes on other tags that are not > > supported - see the compatibility guide on New Atlanta's website. Also > > note that there are several features not available in the free server > > edition that are only available in the JX edition (some features) or > > the full J2EE edition. > > > > For example, the free edition does not support: cfexecute, cfgraph, > > cfschedule, cfservlet, cfservletparam or cfwddx and none of the > > editions support cfobject type="COM". See: > > > > http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/ > > cfml_tag_support.cfm > > > > There's a myriad incompatibilities that may or may not be important to > > developers including: > > - cfapplication always requires name= > > - cfquery does not auto-escape single quotes > > (I suspect a lot of CF5 code relies on this) > > - cfregistry does not actually access the Windows registry > > - cookies cannot be created by cfset - you must use cfcookie > > > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > > -- Margaret Atwood > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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