The Lexus-Toyota debate... More than a couple on the list placed the concept of "a few bucks" being the difference between MX and BD free version...
First, I may be working more hours than I ever did, however most of this is unbillable hours these days - I'm forcing myself to learn Flash - not just intros that I've been doing for a year... REAL Flash - ActionScript, connecting to CF... because in the past year I watched my work opportunities dry up more than ever, and my company folded, though I am still in the game, after over 8 years of web development... so I get to reinvent myself to move forward. So for me, SURE some of the time I still charge $100 or $150 an hour... that's the exception for me now not the rule anymore... Now, it's hey- I've got to come up with food money again... oh wow - out of the ten proposals I sent out THREE months ago, ONE came back and they want to know if I'll do the work on condition that they pay me in 18 monthly installments! Holy Canoli ! What do I say - sorry - I am saving up to upgrade to MX, so either you pay me in three payments, ALL before you go live? Sorry - too many weeks and months of eating New York City vendor hot dogs as my source of nourishment to play that game these days. Besides - I don't know to presume where you live Dave, but here in the big apple, we pay premium bucks for the smallest living quarters (all ostensibly to have access to the big bucks clients that now seem to be putting off new web work)... Got to the point last year where I walked away from my beautiful Mustang convertible - with just six payments left on a five year plan... This is ANYTHING other than complaining, bitching, or pity-potting... This is simple reality at the moment. So FREE is always in this scenario a better alternative than $1300!!! At 08:14 PM 6/14/03 -0400, you wrote: >depends on how you look at it > >if you have ever owned a Toyota & a Lexus you know the difference in the >Lexus is superior and you don't mind spending the few extra bucks for one, >although both are good products:) but not the same. > >It would take an awful lot to get me away from MM. To some people I would >say the .net part is attractive, to me its really not. After all one of the >reasons I left asp was to get away from the big machine (M$). >But then again I'm not much of a developer (right Ben, lol) I'm a business >man & I know that if I walked into a meeting and had to prove my case with >cf against a .net user that I'd squash him. > >could go on & on but I don't want Charlie Griefer making fun of my spelling >anymore, hahaha, jk Charlie > >to the other Charlie @ new atlanta: >Charlie, I'm a bit different than most people on the list in that I'm not a >developer by trade. Actually, I own a real estate company & I do this as a >hobby. From my perspective it seems that in most cases Blue Dragon is still >at cf 5.0. And I basically have been learning cf from cfmx & I just can't >see me going backwards to learn what yesterday had. I realize a lot of >people are still at 4.5 but a lot aren't. And with the more recent pushes by >MM to keep cf going forward more people are starting to come over and I >can't see them not doing what I am. That is learning from cfmx. >The biggest complaint I hear from people is the cost. Truthfully I don't >really buy that completely. Sure its some cash but when these shops are >charging $100 + an hour & you can write off what 65% or so of the cost , its >only a few hours of actual on the clock costs. > >but anyway, like I said I'm not knocking your product at all, actually >sometimes its intriguing. But Just thought I'd tell ya what this consumers >perception is from basically just reading what has been said on this list >over the last few months. > >~you can have my girl but don't touch my car or my dwmx!~ > >haha, jk:) > >dave > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Quarto-vonTivadar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 5:52 PM >Subject: Re: CF Compatability > > > > > But will I give up my Lexus for a Toyota..............nope:)(the girls > > like > > > it) > > > > > > dave > > > > > > > > > then you haven't seen my Toyota :) > > > > by the way, *IF* this is the analogy you mean, then you're making >Charlie's > > case for him, since it's what's under the hood that counts -- otherwise >all > > we're doing is drinking th emarketing kool-aid and we might just as well > > call CFCs "true objects" and be done with it. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
