That's what I thought.

Yeah the terminology is a royal PITA.  And even VFP's database implementation of 
triggers and such is not the cleanest in the world.

Thankfully of all the systems we wrote only 2 are left using VFP tables, the rest have 
been converted to SQL.  If we ever get a few months free we might think of converting 
them as well, but they work so we aren't going to break the wheel.
______________________________________________________ 

Bill Grover     
Supervisor MIS                  Phone:  301.424.3300 x3324      
EU Services, Inc.               FAX:    301.424.3696    
649 North Horners Lane          E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rockville, MD 20850-1299        WWW:    http://www.euservices.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: visual fox pro db?
> 
> 
> Actually they are "free tables."  and not  in a database 
> container.  He sent
> them to me and I exported them to three different files, 
> System data format,
> Comma delimited, and tab delimited, and he them imported them 
> into his SQL
> database with no further problems.  Since the table did not 
> contain a whole lot
> of records, it only took a minute or so to make the export 
> and send them back.
> There is an inherited terminology error with FoxPro, (and for 
> that matter dbase)
> in that free tables were called "database" before they even 
> knew what a real
> database was.
> 
> You are correct that a DBF table can be accessed directly, 
> but it is cleaner
> when using it as a part of a larger application to import it 
> into an SQL table
> where you can apply stored procedures, triggers, etc.
> 
> Had it been in a database container (dbc file) then the VFP 
> upsize wizard will
> convert it to an SQL database file in one pass.
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 6:30 AM
> Subject: RE: visual fox pro db?
> 
> 
> | Sorry it took so long to respond, I got pulled out of the 
> office all of
> yesterday.
> |
> | I suspect that you are doing your DTS import your DSN is 
> set to use a VFP
> database.  In this case when you see the table list SQL is 
> retrieving it from a
> list of tables stored in the VFP database.  The VFP database 
> information is
> stored in a set of 3 files, ?.dbc, ?.dct, ?.dcx where ? is 
> common among the
> files.  This container holds neat things like triggers, 
> defaults, referential
> integrity and so on.
> |
> | However, having said that, it is possible to create VFP 
> tables know as "free
> tables".  These are tables just like ones in the database but 
> are not linked to
> any database.  There are a few restrictions (no triggers, 
> column names < 10
> characters, etc) but otherwise these tables can be accessed 
> just like tables
> that are part of a VFP database.
> |
> | So my thought is that the 3 sets of files you are not 
> seeing in your import
> list are free tables.  Create yourself another DSN telling 
> the system to use
> tables instead of the database.  You should now see all of 
> the tables in the
> folder, both the ones that are part of the database and the 
> ones that are not.
> You should be able to select all of the tables you want to import.
> |
> | Hope that helps.
> | ______________________________________________________
> |
> | Bill Grover
> | Supervisor MIS                  Phone:  301.424.3300 x3324
> | EU Services, Inc.               FAX:    301.424.3696
> | 649 North Horners Lane          E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Rockville, MD 20850-1299        WWW:    http://www.euservices.com
> | ______________________________________________________
> |
> |
> |
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:45 AM
> | > To: CF-Talk
> | > Subject: RE: visual fox pro db?
> | >
> | >
> | > just missing a table in the import, that is there, in the 
> foxpro files
> | > directory....
> | > does this make sense?  I have like 55 groups of 3 files, 
> all I assumed
> | > where 55 different
> | > tables with some ancillary files to hold data....correct? 
>  so, most of
> | > them import fine, its just
> | > that a couple, don't?  its like they are not there in the
> | > list of tables
> | > to choose from, on my
> | > dts import...ive got the filename dsn working, its all good,
> | > just three
> | > tables don't show up in
> | > the list to select all when importing into sql server 2000?
> | >
> | > tony weeg
> | > uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
> | > tony at navtrak dot net
> | > www.navtrak.net
> | > office 410.548.2337
> | > fax 410.860.2337
> | >
> | >
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:52 AM
> | > To: CF-Talk
> | > Subject: RE: visual fox pro db?
> | >
> | >
> | > Tony,
> | >
> | > We use FoxPro here all the time and have successfully 
> migrated many
> | > systems to SQL.  What is the issue/errors you are seeing?
> | > ______________________________________________________
> | >
> | > Bill Grover
> | > Supervisor MIS                  Phone:  301.424.3300 x3324
> | > EU Services, Inc.               FAX:    301.424.3696
> | > 649 North Horners Lane          E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Rockville, MD 20850-1299        WWW:    http://www.euservices.com
> | > ______________________________________________________
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > > -----Original Message-----
> | > > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:05 AM
> | > > To: CF-Talk
> | > > Subject: RE: visual fox pro db?
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > and then in turn, im builing a web based collections
> | > system, reverse
> | > > engineering actually...but building from scratch most of
> | > it...taking
> | > > it from a windows based app
> | > > to a web based app :) fun fun fun...old vfp system!!!
> | > >
> | > > later.
> | > >
> | > > and thanks for any help..
> | > >
> | > > -----Original Message-----
> | > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:56 PM
> | > > To: CF-Talk
> | > > Subject: Re: visual fox pro db?
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > What's the question?
> | > >
> | > > -Novak
> | > >
> | > > ----- Original Message -----
> | > > From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:46 PM
> | > > Subject: ot: visual fox pro db?
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > > hey, if anyone on here is knowledgable about vfp
> | > databases...please
> | > > > if you have time, email me off list, i have a quick
> | > > question...thanks!
> | > > >
> | > > > ....tony
> | > > >
> | > > > tony weeg
> | > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > > > www.revolutionwebdesign.com
> | > > > rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
> | > > > 410.334.6331
> | > > >
> | > > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> | 
> 
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