oh yeah, I knew that, but Ive heard many on here, say the same thing...

I havent found div/layers/spans to be as universal across the board
as tables, and cross browser wise, arent tables just much more safe?

tony weeg
uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
tony at navtrak dot net
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: RE: RE: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0


Although I could go on and on, my statement was a joke.  See the smiley?

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:56 am
Subject: RE: RE: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0

> whats wrong with tables for layout?
> 
> tony weeg
> uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
> tony at navtrak dot net
> www.navtrak.net
> office 410.548.2337
> fax 410.860.2337
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:48 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: RE: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0
> 
> 
> What are you doing using tables for layout? :P
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tyler Silcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:45 am
> Subject: RE: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0
> 
> > I was very interested in this also, so I jumped right on this 
> > yesterday when I saw it...a little forewarning: it definitely works,

> > but it
> still
> > outputsin "chunks" and if you are nesting tables, it won't
> output
> > inner table rows
> > until the inner table is complete.  So, for us at least (we use
> > layoutsheavily), it still isn't production worthy, unless we 
> > create a separate page
> > for the flushes, which we do anyway...definitely good to know 
> it's
> > there,but not quite a end all, be all solution for cfflush->
> > 
> > Tyler
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ciliotta, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:36 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > This looks really interesting and I am going to give it a try today.
> > 
> > Mario
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:29 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, by default, IE waits for the table to finish before it is 
> > rendered. However, you can change this behaviour by using the 
> > "table-
> layout:
> > fixed"style to your table and optionally adding <col> tags.
> > There's more
> > information in MSDN: Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ 
> and
> > then Web
> > Development -> HTML and Dynamic HTML -> SDK Documentation ->
> > Reference ->
> > Properties -> tableLayout.
> > 
> > Many people do not realize that later versions of CF, by default, 
> > outputscontent to the browser almost immediately.  <CFFLUSH> is 
> > actually quite useless in most circumstances.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ciliotta, Mario" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2003 5:14 pm
> > Subject: CFFLUSH and IE5.x - 6.0
> > 
> > > Hi
> > > 
> > > I was wondering if anyone has any experience with using cfflush
> > and
> > > IE.  I have been trying to get the results of a query to start 
> > > flushing out to the screen but I have been unsuccessfully.
> The
> > query
> > > usually returns about 150-200 rows.  I cleaned up the page so
> > that all
> > > the summing and totaling is now handled by the database instead
> > of CF
> > > (way fast page loading - but the users want more).  Basically
> > the
> > > query will run and then I output the data to the page.  The data
> > is
> > > displayed in a table for formatting purposes but it never seems
> > to
> > > flush.  It looks like IE waits for the table to finish - seems
> > as
> > > though IE will not flush a partially composed table??????  Just 
> > > guessing.
> > > 
> > > If anyone knows how to get CFFLUSH to work in this example that
> > would
> > > be great.
> > > 
> > > Here is the code that I have so far -- Sorry it is a app that I 
> > > inherited from another group so some of the CF might not be
> the
> > best,
> > > but I'll clean it up after the flush issue.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > Mario
> > > 
> > > Code example:
> > > 
> > > <CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="Yes">
> > > 
> > > <CFSET StartDate = #DATEFORMAT((form.txtFromDate),"yyyy/mm/dd")#>
> > > <CFSET EndDate = #DATEFORMAT((form.txtToDate),"yyyy/mm/dd")#>
> > > 
> > > <CFSET WhereC = "WHERE tblLobbyEntry.EntryDate Between
> > '#StartDate#'
> > > And '#EndDate#'">
> > > 
> > > <CFIF #form.div# IS NOT 0>
> > >   <CFSET WhereC = WhereC & " AND tblLobbyEntry.Division = 
> > > '#form.div#'">   <CFSET strDiv=#form.div#>
> > > <CFELSE>
> > >   <CFSET strDiv='All Divisions'>
> > > </CFIF>
> > > 
> > > <CFIF #form.cboEmployee# IS NOT "N/A">
> > >   <CFSET whereC = WhereC & " and tblLobbyEntry.globalID = 
> > > '#form.cboEmployee#'"></CFIF>
> > > 
> > > <CFQUERY NAME="GetInfo" DATASOURCE="#app_datasource#" 
> > > USERNAME="#app_user#" PASSWORD="#app_passwd#"> SELECT a.* FROM
> > (SELECT
> > > globalid, MAX(lname) lname, MAX(Fname) fname,
> > > COUNT(*) total_cnt, 
> > >          SUM(CASE WHEN registered = 0 THEN 1 ELSE 0 END) 
> > >          unregistered, 
> > >          SUM(CASE WHEN registered = 1 THEN 1 ELSE 0 END) 
> > >          registered, tblLobbyEntry.Division, tblLobbyEntry.LName
> > > + ', ' + tblLobbyEntry.FName Employee
> > >      FROM dbo.tblLobbyEntry
> > >          #preserveSingleQuotes(WhereC)#
> > >      GROUP BY globalid, lname, fname, division) a WHERE
> > Total_Cnt >=
> > > #form.cboVisits# ORDER BY total_cnt, lname, fname </CFQUERY> 
> > > <CFSETTING ENABLECFOUTPUTONLY="No">
> > > 
> > > <html>
> > > <head>
> > > <meta http-equiv = "Express" content = "-1"> <META 
> > > HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT"> 
> > > <CFHEADER NAME="Pragma" VALUE="no-cache"> <CFHEADER
> > NAME="Expires"
> > > VALUE="Now()"> <CFHEADER NAME="cache-control" VALUE="no-cache, 
> > > no-store, must- revalidate, max-age=0"> <BASE
> TARGET="listing">
> > > </head>
> > > 
> > > <LINK href="./script/2001_intranet_style.css" rel=stylesheet>
> > > 
> > > <body>
> > > 
> > > <table width="100%" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" 
> > > align="center" bordercolor="silver" >
> > >    <tr>
> > >           <td width="90%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" colspan="9"
> 
> > > align="center"><b><cfoutput>No: of #strDiv# Overseas Employees
> > > visiting London on #form.cboVisits# or more occasions between 
> > > #dateFormat(StartDate, "dd mmm yyyy")# and 
> #dateFormat(EndDate,
> > "dd
> > > mmm yyyy")#: #GETINFO.RECORDCOUNT#</cfoutput></b></td>
> > >    </tr>  
> > >   <tr>
> > >           <td width="100%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" 
> > > align="center" colspan="13"><B>NUMBER OF COUNTRIES RETURNED:
> > </B></TD>>  </tr>   
> > >    <tr bgcolor="GRAY">   
> > >           <td width="20%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" 
> > > align="center"><b>Total Visits</b></td>          
> > >           <td width="20%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" 
> > > align="center"><b>Employee</b></td>          
> > >           <td width="20%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" 
> > > align="center"><b>Division</b></td>      
> > >           <td width="20%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" 
> > > align="center"><b>Registered Visits</b></td>          
> > >           <td width="20%" id="ignore" class="RSHeader" 
> > > align="center"><b>Non Registered Visits</b></td>
> > >    </tr>
> > >      <CFFLUSH interval=5>
> > >   <CFOUTPUT QUERY="GetInfo">         
> > >           <tr>                    
> > >                   <td width="7%" class="even"
> > > align="left"><b>#total_cnt#</b></td>  
> > >                   <td width="20%" class="font2" align="left"> 
> > > #employee#</td>                   <td width="20%" class="font2" 
> > > align="left"> #division#</td>
> > >                   <td width="20%" class="font2" align="left"> 
> > > #registered#</td>                 <td width="20%" 
> class="font2"
> > > align="Left"> #unregistered#</TD>                         
> > >           </tr>
> > >   </CFOUTPUT>
> > > </table>
> > > </body>
> > > </html>
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