Specifying that the behaviour is undefined is a perfectly valid end, and I'd
then have to make the choice about managing the connections directly or some
other solution.  But if I don't have to, that'd be great.  I'm a lazy bitch,
after all ;)

Being able to rely on CF's behaviour (or even knowing that I can't rely on
it) is all I'm looking for, rather than the "well, it makes sense they'd do
it this way, but no one knows" that there is right now.  I asked this
question several months ago, and got nothing out of it.  Jochem got a very
good first half of the response from Sean, I was hoping for the second half.

cheers,
barneyb

PS: To avoid any potential misunderstandings such as those that have been
exemplified recently on this list, that emoticon at the end of the first
paragraph was in fact a humorous one, indicating that I laugh at myself for
being a lazy bitch.

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Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: read-only SQL transactions
>
>
> It just seems like it wouldn't be in anyone's interest to formally
> specify the connection behavior of cfquery since that would mean it
> couldn't change in the future. Basically what I am saying is that if
> you are willing to give up control over the connections then you
> shouldn't expect the connection behavior to be specified or even
> consistent across releases.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:
>
> > You are exactly correct.  However, if CFQUERY provides the interface
> > (and I
> > imagine it does, it just doesn't happen to be formally specified
> > anywhere),
> > why would I want to dick around with managing my own connections?
> > There's a
> > lot of reasons I use CF and am willing to fork the cash for it instead
> > of
> > using PHP or something, and the biggest single reason is the amazingly
> > helpful database abstraction.
> >
> > barneyb
> >
> > ---
> > Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> > AudienceCentral
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > voice : 360.756.8080 x12
> > fax   : 360.647.5351
> >
> > www.audiencecentral.com
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:57 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: read-only SQL transactions
> >>
> >>
> >> It seems like one of the benefits to using cfquery as opposed to JDBC
> >> directly is that you don't have to deal with connection issues and
> >> what
> >> have you. It seems to me that if you need that much control over the
> >> connections than you should be using JDBC directly.
> >>
> >> -Matt
> >>
> >> On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:
> >>
> >>> Next question:  Will any other concurrently processing requests use
> >>> that
> >>> connection, or is it reserved for the exclusive use of the current
> >>> thread?
> >>> It seems to me that when a request gets a connection, it is removed
> >>> from the
> >>> pool of connections until the request is over, but like Jochem, I'm
> >>> quite
> >>> interested in a formal specification of the behaviour, one way or the
> >>> other.
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> >>> AudienceCentral
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> voice : 360.756.8080 x12
> >>> fax   : 360.647.5351
> >>>
> >>> www.audiencecentral.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:23 PM
> >>>> To: CF-Talk
> >>>> Subject: Re: read-only SQL transactions
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 08:03 US/Pacific, Dave Watts wrote:
> >>>>>> And I believe it is currently not guaranteed that multiple
> >>>>>> queries from one request will use the same connection. Right?
> >>>>> That's an interesting question. It's my understanding that multiple
> >>>>> queries
> >>>>> using the same datasource within a single request do use the same
> >>>>> connection, based on conversations I've had with some MM people,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> can't
> >>>>> say that it's definitively true.
> >>>>
> >>>> I asked the CF product team and they said:
> >>>>
> >>>> "All .cfm page requests that use the same Datasource will get the
> >>>> same
> >>>> connection back. The Connection object is stored in the Threadlocal
> >>>> object and reused for subsequent connection requests on the page."
> >>>>
> >>>> So it sounds like Dave's understanding is correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> >>>>
> >>>> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> >>>> -- Margaret Atwood
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