Also...

A couple of the guys here have wrist related problems and use Dragon
speech software. They have it trained up quite well but my understanding
is it takes a while to reach this level. Its also context sensitive so
while its good a guessing what you said in a typical English sentence, I
struggled to train it to write <cfset! 

If you have the patience (which I haven't) you may be able to get it up
to an acceptable speed level (Depending on how fast you type).

Kola

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 July 2003 14:18
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: ergonomics
>> 
>> ibuprofen doesn't do anything, even the horse pill size ones the
800mg
>> ones!!!
>> 
>> im trying vioxx tho', and ill let u know!
>> 
>> what I am going to purchase is this... a wireless mouse, that will
work
>> ambidextrously...and a microsoft
>> natural keyboard, those two fixes, seem to go across the board, as
the
>> most promising things to
>> try!
>> 
>> stan winchester, has one heck of a contraption setup @ his office, if
he
>> sends you his url...you can
>> see it...it looks like it is 100% ready and waiting for some tired
>> aching hands...wow!
>> 
>> anyhow, this seems like a problem across the board, a lot of
developers
>> on here, well, I say a lot, but not too many, are having some of the
>> same issues...dave watts, ben, sean...what about you guys...been
coding
>> a while? what are your remedies?
>> 
>> tony weeg
>> uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
>> tony at navtrak dot net
>> www.navtrak.net
>> office 410.548.2337
>> fax 410.860.2337
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:12 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: ergonomics
>> 
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Think I'm in the same boat, except Ibuprofen didn't help!
>> 
>> I'd second Barney's advice about having the elbows higher than the
desk
>> space. When using my laptop at home I have it much lower than my work
>> desk I find I rarely get the wrist aches and pains I get at work.
>> 
>> Kola
>> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: 21 July 2003 21:14
>> >> To: CF-Talk
>> >> Subject: RE: ergonomics
>> >>
>> >> I've experienced the same thing, Ben.  I've got big ol' meathooks,
>> but
>> >> the
>> >> don't contort very well. I get all tight when I spend a lot of
time
>> >> typing prose, but as long as I'm dancing around the keys looking
for
>> >> all
>> those
>> >> weird programming keys, I'm fine.  I think it's directly tied to
when
>> I
>> >> have
>> >> my wrists on the desk/rest, because that keeps everything still.
>> When
>> >> I'm
>> >> floating (from moving my hands around), I have less problems.
>> >>
>> >> Also, when you're sitting at the desk, make sure your elbows are
>> slightly
>> >> higher than the desk surface.  Someone told me that at some point,
>> and
>> >> it's
>> >> good advice, since it helps keep your wrists floating.  Especially
>> with
>> >> my
>> >> horrible horrible slouching.  ;)
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> barneyb
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
>> >> AudienceCentral
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> voice : 360.756.8080 x12
>> >> fax   : 360.647.5351
>> >>
>> >> www.audiencecentral.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:52 PM
>> >> > To: CF-Talk
>> >> > Subject: RE: ergonomics
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Is he making fun of my glasses?
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, well, I'll tell him what helps me anyway.
>> >> >
>> >> > I type wrong.  I didn't learn it that way on purpose, but there
it
>> is.
>> >> My
>> >> > hands are a little small for a standard keyboard (from the home
row
>> 
>> >> > I can't reach most of the numbers), so my hands move around,
waving
>> 
>> >> > above
>> the
>> >> > keyboard like I'm casting a spell.
>> >> >
>> >> > I talked to an ergonomics expert, and she said what I was doing
was
>> 
>> >> > exactly right.  Many of the problems associated with RSS are
caused
>> 
>> >> > by the hands and
>> >> > wrists being forced into and kept at wierd angles.  According to
>> her,
>> >> the
>> >> > key is to keep moving the hands and wrists around so that they
>> aren't
>> >> ever
>> >> > stuck in the same position for hours on end.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know if any of this will help, but it's what I know.
:-\
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --  Ben Doom
>> >> >     Programmer & General Lackey
>> >> >     Moonbow Software, Inc
>> >> >
>> >> > : -----Original Message-----
>> >> > : From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > : Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:38 PM
>> >> > : To: CF-Talk
>> >> > : Subject: RE: ergonomics
>> >> > :
>> >> > :
>> >> > : yah...i just turned 30 on the 4th of june, I had to get
glasses
>> >> > : and now, these wrists are starting to bug out...10 years of
this
>> >> > : and this is what happens....
>> >> > :
>> >> > : I really want to find a not too high priced ergo desk....
>> >> > :
>> >> > : tony weeg
>> >> > : uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
>> >> > : tony at navtrak dot net
>> >> > : www.navtrak.net
>> >> > : office 410.548.2337
>> >> > : fax 410.860.2337
>> >> > :
>> >> > :
>> >> > : -----Original Message-----
>> >> > : From: Erik Yowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > : Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
>> >> > : To: CF-Talk
>> >> > : Subject: RE: ergonomics
>> >> > :
>> >> > :
>> >> > : That does suck - same thing here, I'm in my late 20s and my
wrist
>> is
>> >> > : shot - Switching to the MS Wireless Optical Intellimouse
Explorer
>> >> helped
>> >> > : me quite a bit, and from what I hear the Logitech trackballs
are
>> >> > : seriously the way to go, though it will take a bit of
relearning
>> time
>> >> to
>> >> > : get the hang of it if you're not used to it.
>> >> > :
>> >> > : Erik Yowell
>> >> > : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > : http://www.shortfusemedia.com
>> >> > :
>> >> > :
>> >> > : > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > : > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > : > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:11 PM
>> >> > : > To: CF-Talk
>> >> > : > Subject: ot: ergonomics
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : > hey all.
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : > listen...ive got a problem, and things are getting worse.
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : > my wrists and my forearm (tennis elbow) are really starting
to
>> hurt
>> >> > : > these days, I have been to the doc, got some scripts (vioxx,
>> >> bextra,
>> >> > : > ibuprofen, etc...)
>> >> > : > and they are all well, blah... anyway, what ergonomic ideas
>> does
>> >> > : anyone
>> >> > : > have
>> >> > : > or employ (Desk, mouse, keyboard) that you could
share...this
>> is
>> >> > : > starting to hurt and this sucks!!!!
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : > thanks
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : > tony
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : > tony weeg
>> >> > : > uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
>> >> > : > tony at navtrak dot net
>> >> > : > www.navtrak.net
>> >> > : > office 410.548.2337
>> >> > : > fax 410.860.2337
>> >> > : >
>> >> > : >
>> >> > :
>> >> > :
>> >> >
>> >>
>> 
>> 
>>

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