$10 says royale is built into cf 7...much like the remoting approach.

Stace

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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: CF or .DotNet what do you think?

In what ways?

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Brunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2003 4:48 pm
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: CF or .DotNet what do you think?

> Thanks for that we realize it, however our belief is that there 
> will be ongoing better functionalities and closer coupling between 
> CF and Flash.
> 
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
> 
> Original Message -----------------------
> FlashMX works with .NET.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Brunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2003 3:45 pm
> Subject: RE: Re: CF or .DotNet what do you think?
> 
> > It is very true that most websites out there are HTML with fancy 
> > stuff like JavaScript/DHTML however as web applications continue 
> > their march into replacing legacy enterprise apps that will not 
> be 
> > enough.
> > We see the integration of CFMX and FlashMX (and MX successors) 
> to 
> > be a pivotal issue in Application Server/Environment choice.  
> .NET 
> > does not offer such a logical path to building RIA's.  If we add 
> > to that the RAD advantages of ColdFusion, we have no doubts that 
> > CF holds sway over .NET for all that we are involved in.
> > 
> > Kind Regards Mike Brunt
> > Original Message -----------------------
> > Currently there are things one can do with ASP.net that cannot 
> > efficiently be
> > done in CF, however for most web development, it has already 
> been 
> > shown a number
> > of times that same or similar functionality can be done in CF 
> with 
> > far less
> > lines of code that in ASP.
> > 
> > True, one does not have to be a C, C# or VB.NET programmer to 
> > learn CF.
> > 
> > All that said, the fact remains that the majority of web sites 
> are 
> > mostly plain
> > 'ol HTML, with some JavaScript thrown in.   The actual dynamic 
> > data driven sites
> > have a shorter development time in CF than in .ASP, however, XML 
> > handling is
> > still a moving target for CF, but they are getting there.
> > 
> > For the evolving present, however, there seems to be room for a 
> > combination of
> > all the technologies, including even (gag) java!
> > 
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Eric Creese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:19 PM
> > Subject: CF or .DotNet what do you think?
> > 
> > 
> > | A while back I had posed a question about CF vs .DotNet.  Well 
> > the discussion
> > here is picking up again and want to go to the mat for CF. I 
> know, 
> > like it, and
> > have built several apps and sites. I have 4  VB developers on 
> > staff with limited
> > ASP and web development. They of course will probably lean 
> towards 
> > .DotNET. One
> > who has more ASP experience had to let me know that a real 
> > developer would use
> > ASP and that CF is for non-developers. Another basically said CF 
> > can not provide
> > the robustness needed for a full blown App.
> > |
> > | Well I am asking for this boards feedback on the matter. Your 
> > pros and cons
> > would be much appreciated for my presentation.
> > |
> > | Eric
> > | 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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