>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:58 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Good News: (was RE: Mach II 1.0 )

<snippage>

>> But I'm sure you can get by without knowing anything about OOP, just as
CF
>> programmers have since CF1.0.  It's only for Mach-ii it becomes more
>> important to know about it.

I probably wouldn't say it's *only* for Mach-ii that OO becomes 'important'
to us CF folk.  I've been doing CF since 1.5, and all of my
'legacy'/procedural CF code will certainly run in MX...but won't take
advantage of the new functionality in MX (ie cfc's, which are a huge step
themselves toward making CF OO rather than procedural).

So I would suggest that whether or not you use Mach-ii, just being on MX
gives you ample reason to start delving into OO.

That's the boat I'm in at the moment.  Reading Hal's 'Discovering CFCs' at
the moment.  Only just started...so all I understand at the moment is that a
cat is a class...and also a subclass of the mammal class...and inherits
properties from the mammal class.  Oh yeah...and cats secretly compose
Haikus :)

charlie


-----Original Message-----
From: Murat Demirci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 8:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Good News: (was RE: Mach II 1.0 )

Who is the audience?

You say we, CFMX developers, need to learn OO.

OK. I want to learn it to create powerful apps but how? There is no source
for OO programming in CF?

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Good News: (was RE: Mach II 1.0 )


You won't really need to know much about XML, Michael, but you will need to
know OO to do a lot with Mach-II.

Hal Helms
"Java for CF Programmers" class
in Las Vegas, August 18-22
www.halhelms.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Good News: (was RE: Mach II 1.0 )


Hal put a new version of Mach-II on the site Mach-II.com last night, and
bingo!  The problem was I wasn't using US date format.  In a jiffy, he
corrected the bug so it accepted international date formats and now it goes.

Like lightning it goes!

It installed and the sample apps worked just like that - right out of the
box. No muss, no fuss.

Now I want to know more about how this whole thing works.

I get the impression that working in the Mach-II environment is going to
require a knowledge of object-oriented programming terminology that I don't
have.  Is that right?     For example I rather get the impression that
expressions like MVC - Model View Conroller are familiar to people who've
done other programming.  Is this so?     If I want to become adept at
using
Mach-ii am I going to have to learn about OO Programming?

I can see that amongst the disciplines I'm going to have to know well are
XML, but I need to learn more about that anyway.  Anything else?

Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.









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