no... pretty sure the cfmodule tag isn't part of the issue
'cause it's just a local function call and if I change the
access to public or package it's fine... same thing if I
leave out the cfmodule call and just do something like this:

<cfcomponent>
<cffunction name="f" access="private">
  <cfreturn "hello world">
</cffunction>

<cffunction name="f2" access="public">
  <cfreturn this.f()>
</cffuntion>
</cfcomponent>

> I noticed that you're using cfmodule.  Have you tried just
> using "tag('tapi')"?

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re:_cfcomponent_cffunction_access="private"_--_wh
> at_the_!!??


>> > I think the docs mean that the private methods are
>> > accessible only within that CFC's (and those that
>> > extend it) code, not CFCs that instantiate it
>> > (that would make "private" pretty useless).
>>
>> Right -- but I can't get functions within _the_same_ CFC
>> to
>> access the method... that's afaik the definition of
>> private
>> in OO languages... it has to be instantiated in order for
>> a
>> private method to be called (cfinvoke against an
>> uninstantiated CFC for instance afaik falls in the
>> category
>> of public access -- the method is being accessed from an
>> outside cf template) -- but private methods can only be
>> called from within the same instance of the class. The
>> same
>> object... but I can't get any of the other methods in the
>> same object to access them. Which makes the private
>> methods
>> essentially non-existant except for the meta data --
>> which
>> is useless for execution of the method.
>>
>> > It does make sense that the metadata displays it.
>> > Just because something's declared private doesn't
>> > mean that it's not documented.
>>
>> I did think it was a little odd that they don't appear in
>> <cfdump> ... for the same reason -- just because it's
>> private doesn't mean it's not there or shouldn't be
>> displayed necessarily...
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:35 PM
>> > Subject:
>> > cfcomponent_cffunction_access="private"_--_what_the_!!?
>> > ?
>>
>>
>> >> ... this strikes me as somewhat odd and I'm hoping
>> >> someone
>> >> here has run into this already:
>> >>
>> >> ColdFusion MX 6.1 Stand Alone - internal web server
>> >> Windows 2000 Server SP4
>> >>
>> >> I have this CFC
>> >>
>> >> ontap.cfc
>> >> <cfcomponent displayname="ontap">
>> >>   <cffunction name="tag" access="private">
>> >>     blah blah
>> >>   </cffunction>
>> >>
>> >>   <cffunction name="getFunction" access="public">
>> >>     <cfmodule template="#this.tag('tapi')#" ...>
>> >>     <cfreturn true>
>> >>   </cffunction>
>> >> </cfcomponent>
>> >>
>> >> temp.cfm
>> >> <cfobject name="ontap" component="ontap">
>> >> <cfset temp = ontap.getFunction('blah')>
>> >>
>> >> I've removed everything but the pertinent bits from
>> >> these
>> >> cfc's for the sake of explaining the problem...
>> >> According
>> >> to
>> >> the documentation ( http://livedocs.macromedia.com )
>> >> functions declared as private are supposed to be
>> >> accessible
>> >> to the CFC which declares the function and any CFC's
>> >> that
>> >> extend it. Now, if I use getMetaData() to view the
>> >> metadata
>> >> for the CFC the private method shows up. However, if I
>> >> call
>> >> the function ontap.getFunction() I get an error saying
>> >> that
>> >> the CFC doesn't have a function called "tag" ...
>> >> which...
>> >> according to getMetaData it does. It also doesn't show
>> >> up
>> >> if
>> >> I output the cfc as <cfdump var="#ontap#"> ...
>> >>
>> >> If I change the access level of the tag function to
>> >> package
>> >> or public, however, everything is hunky dory.
>> >>
>> >> It seems that for all intents and purposes, specifying
>> >> access="private" essentially comments out the function
>> >> so
>> >> that no code, no matter where it's placed or how its
>> >> referenced can ever call the method. ??? ... (except
>> >> it
>> >> still shows up in the meta data)
>> >>
>> >> I'm really confused. Is my server hozed. Has anyone
>> >> else
>> >> seen this?
>> >>
>> >> While I could live with them potentially being
>> >> access="package" or even public the nature of these
>> >> functions I'm working with is that they shouldn't ever
>> >> be
>> >> called from anywhere other than the CFC that declared
>> >> them
>> >> or a CFC that extends it (what the documentation says
>> >> is
>> >> the
>> >> definition of private), so it'd be really nice to be
>> >> able
>> >> to
>> >> use that.
>> >>
>> >> s. isaac dealey                972-490-6624
>> >>
>> >> team macromedia volunteer
>> >> http://www.macromedia.com/go/team
>> >>
>> >> chief architect, tapestry cms
>> >> http://products.turnkey.to
>> >>
>> >> onTap is open source
>> >> http://www.turnkey.to/ontap
>> >>
>> >>
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>> s. isaac dealey                972-490-6624
>>
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