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-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Milking every last drop of CF performance...
Has anyone actually tried disabling the swap on an NT server? I've heard
rumors that it is possible, and if it is, the server would probably pick up
speed dramatically. Maybe I'll pull a spare web server and attempt it to
see what happens. Anyone had the guts before?
Gregory Harris
Los Angeles ITA Dept.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26 10:59 AM >>>
You are correct, for the most part a highly tuned IIS/CF server will run
almost completely from data stored in RAM once everything has gotten warmed
up. The HD is still by far the slowest part of any system and a web server
is nothing more than a specialized file server. The system will read and
write from the swap file. I don't know why NT insists on doing this when
there's plenty of RAM but, it does. Log files will be a constant source of
disk usage. Don't forget Verity collections, cache map files, and the like.
To keep the whole system performing optimally you must take everything into
consideration. The various tasks are all interconnected and interdependent.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Milking every last drop of CF performance...
I'm wondering; when this topic is raised very fast disk is usually
recommended. However, at first glance it seems that a machine with
sufficient memory is unlikely to touch the disk very much once all the
templates have been compiled and cached (assuming that you tell CF to trust
the template cache, which you'd want to do for best performance), and so I'm
not sure disk performance is all that important. Does anyone have
benchmarks or monitoring results that suggest that it is?
Note that I don't doubt the value of fast disk in a db or file server, just
in a CF server.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Milking every last drop of CF performance...
Speaking from a purely performance oriented perspective I would consider one
of the two following designs for a CF-only box. I am assuming an Intel box
running Windows NT or 2000 Server.
Here are the things I think you would need regardless of final
configuration:
* Mobo that supports 133MHz bus/RAM
* Dual 800MHz+ Coppermine or Xeon processors
* 2GB 133MHz ECC RAM
* (2) Intel Pro 100+ Dual Port NIC's
* Redundant power supplies, >= 300W
* Redundant, and abundant cooling
* Good UPS
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Gregory Harris [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</=
A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:11 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Milking every last drop of CF =
performance...</FONT>
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<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Has anyone actually tried disabling the swap on an NT =
server? I've heard rumors that it is possible, and if it is, the server =
would probably pick up speed dramatically. Maybe I'll pull a =
spare web server and attempt it to see what happens. Anyone had =
the guts before?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gregory Harris</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Los Angeles ITA Dept.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26 10:59 AM =
>>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>You are correct, for the most part a highly tuned =
IIS/CF server will run</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>almost completely from data stored in RAM once =
everything has gotten warmed</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>up. The HD is still by far the slowest part of any =
system and a web server</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>is nothing more than a specialized file server. The =
system will read and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>write from the swap file. I don't know why NT =
insists on doing this when</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>there's plenty of RAM but, it does. Log files will =
be a constant source of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>disk usage. Don't forget Verity collections, cache =
map files, and the like.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To keep the whole system performing optimally you =
must take everything into</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>consideration. The various tasks are all =
interconnected and interdependent.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Steve</FONT>
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<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]=
</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:17 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Milking every last drop of CF =
performance...</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm wondering; when this topic is raised very fast =
disk is usually</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>recommended. However, at first glance it seems =
that a machine with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>sufficient memory is unlikely to touch the disk very =
much once all the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>templates have been compiled and cached (assuming =
that you tell CF to trust</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the template cache, which you'd want to do for best =
performance), and so I'm</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>not sure disk performance is all that =
important. Does anyone have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>benchmarks or monitoring results that suggest that =
it is?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Note that I don't doubt the value of fast disk in a =
db or file server, just</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>in a CF server.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Steve Bernard [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:02 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Milking every last drop of CF =
performance...</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Speaking from a purely performance oriented =
perspective I would consider one</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>of the two following designs for a CF-only box. I am =
assuming an Intel box</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>running Windows NT or 2000 Server.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Here are the things I think you would need regardless =
of final</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>configuration:</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>* Mobo that supports 133MHz bus/RAM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>* Dual 800MHz+ Coppermine or Xeon processors</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>* 2GB 133MHz ECC RAM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>* (2) Intel Pro 100+ Dual Port NIC's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>* Redundant power supplies, >=3D 300W</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>* Redundant, and abundant cooling</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>* Good UPS</FONT>
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