IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Image manipulation


> Right...that's what occurs when resampling is specified for the image...
> Pixels dimensions can be reduced, document size can be reduced,
> resolution can be reduced, and file size decreases...
>
> Without resampling, file size doesn't change...
>
> Rick
>
> BTW...I never have been able to figure out what "IIRC" is...what does
> that stand for?
>
>
>
>     >  -----Original Message-----
>     >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     >  Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:21 PM
>     >  To: CF-Talk
>     >  Subject: Re: RE: RE: Image manipulation
>     >
>     >
>     >  IIRC, If you're using Photoshop, then when you are
>     >  resizing/reshaping/whatever, make sure that you change the
>     >  DPI and the pixel sizes at the same time for the web ready images.
>     >
>     >  ----- Original Message -----
>     >  From: Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     >  Date: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:39 pm
>     >  Subject: RE: RE: Image manipulation
>     >
>     >  > That part I got...what I wasn't factoring in was the
>     >  "resampling" that
>     >  > was taking place when I was resizing the images...
>     >  >
>     >  > When resampling occurs, the image is changed.  When resizing
>     >  > occurs without resampling, a new image is not created.
>     >  >
>     >  > I think, if I'm not mistaken, that when you say "you'd have to
>     >  > *resample*your image to 1500*2100 pixels..." you reallly mean
>     >  > *resize*, because
>     >  > *resampling* causes the confusion we had earlier.
>     >  >
>     >  > I need to *resample* when creating thumbnails or onscreen display
>     >  > versions.That reduces file size...resizing without resampling
does
>     >  > not reduce file
>     >  > size
>     >  > and is therefore a bad practice for onscreen display images.
>     >  > For printing, images should be *resized*, but not *resampled*.
>     >  >
>     >  > If you work with Photoshop, and work with resizing as well as
>     >  > resamplingimages, which can both be done at the same time, you'll
>     >  > know what I'm
>     >  > referring to...
>     >  >
>     >  > Rick
>     >  >
>     >  >
>     >  >    >  -----Original Message-----
>     >  >    >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     >  >    >  Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:41 PM
>     >  >    >  To: CF-Talk
>     >  >    >  Subject: Re: RE: Image manipulation
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >  I don't understand why you're having such problems with
>     >  >    >  this.  An 8X10 image @ 300 dpi is a 2400 X 3000 pixel
image.
>     >  >    >   Resize this image to whatever pixel dimensions you want
for
>     >  >    >  display purposes.  You're confusing yourself with the
72dpi.
>     >  >    >   That's irrelevant.  Don't worry about it.
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >  For a 5X7 @ 300 dpi, you'd have to resample your image to
>     >  >    >  1500 * 2100 pixels.
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >  For a 4X6 @ 300 dpi, you have 1200 * 1800 pixels.
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >  ----- Original Message -----
>     >  >    >  From: Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     >  >    >  Date: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:12 am
>     >  >    >  Subject: RE: Image manipulation
>     >  >    >
>     >  >    >  > It was the resampling that was complicating the
>     >  >    >  discussion...my bad...
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  > But that brings me back to my original question about the
>     >  > CF image
>     >  >    >  > manipulation tags.  I want to be able to automatically
>     >  > resample    >  > the images
>     >  >    >  > for display so the file size is smaller while keeping the
>     >  >    >  > originals (if they
>     >  >    >  > are
>     >  >    >  > scanned or taken at higher resolutions) at the same ppi.
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  > I don't know yet whether or not any of the tags will
>     >  > perform that
>     >  >    >  > function.
>     >  >    >  > I want to be able to upload a hi-res 8x10 image, have it
>     >  > downsized    >  > (dimensions only)
>     >  >    >  > to a 5x7 and 4x6 (still at same ppi, if the camera's ppi
>     >  > setting is
>     >  >    >  > variable)
>     >  >    >  > then resample the image to 72 ppi for display on the
>     >  > website.  The
>     >  >    >  > 8x10,5x7, and 4x6
>     >  >    >  > are for downloading, saving, and printing...that's what
>     >  >    >  I'm trying to
>     >  >    >  > accomplish.
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  > Anyone know what tag can do this?  CFX_Image?
>     >  >    >  > CF_MagickTag/ImageMagick?CFX_ImageCR from Efflare?
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  > If CFX_ImageCR can accomplish all of that... ppi
>     >  > manipulation and
>     >  >    >  > resampling, too,
>     >  >    >  > then it'll be worth $149, easily...
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  > Thanks for your help...
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  > Rick
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  >
>     >  >    >  >    >  -----Original Message-----
>     >  >    >  >    >  From: Claude Schneegans
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     >  >    >  >    >  Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:32 PM
>     >  >    >  >    >  To: CF-Talk
>     >  >    >  >    >  Subject: Re: Image manipulation
>     >  >    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  >>Can't agree there...perhaps we're comparing
>     >  > apples to
>     >  >    >  > oranges...    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  Excatly: you are comparing two different images!
>     >  >    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  >>Took the same photo and resampled it to 72
>     >  pixels per
>     >  >    >  > inch (ppi),
>     >  >    >  >    >  360 pixels wide, and 503 pixels high. (Maximum
>     >  > quality JPEG
>     >  >    >  > setting)    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  When you "resample" an image this way you get a
>     >  > different    >  > image.    >  You say yourself one is "1501
>     >  > pixels wide", the other
>     >  >    >  > one is
>     >  >    >  >    >  360 pixels.
>     >  >    >  >    >  Of course, if you print them at the same size, thay
>     >  > won't    >  >    >  look the same.
>     >  >    >  >    >  Here are your apples and oranges.
>     >  >    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  >>I'm not sure if we're missing something in this
>     >  > discussion,    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  I'm pretty sure I'm not ;-)
>     >  >    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  >>Does using "ppi" as opposed to "dpi" to refer to
>     >  >    >  >    >  resolution make any difference in our discussion?
>     >  >    >  >    >
>     >  >    >  >    >  If you see a difference between a pixel and a dot,
>     >  > yes it
>     >  >    >  >    >  could make a difference, but for me it doesn't.
>     >  >    >  >    >
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