Relax guys... I was just tossing the old thread into the mix for the heck 
of it.... been awake about 50 hours and counting...

At 12:04 PM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
>hehe.... here we go (strapping on my seat harness)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:51 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
>
>
>oh god..."Microsoft makes the take-over move"
>
>not again......
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 12 September 2003 16:34
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
>
>
>A couple months before the Macromedia buyout of Allaire, I remember quite
>distinctly how
>Allaire put out a call for a new Product Manager - I was one of many who
>applied, and got to the
>pre-interview call stage, though I was passed over because my experience
>was heavy on the
>PROJECT management side and weak on the PRODUCT management side...
>
>THEN they radically raised the cost of Cold Fusion.   - My interpretation
>was and still is
>that they did this as a pre-cursor to being audited for valuation by MM
>staff... the more you
>make on your products the more you'll be bought for.
>
>SO....  With the new fees, new license structure, forced purchase of DW to
>get HomeSite,
>it sounds like me they're positioning to eventually go from MacroMedia to
>MicroMedia when Microsoft makes the take-over move.
>
>
>
>
>At 10:28 AM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
> >I second that.
> >
> >im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
> >quite honest
> >it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most "CODERS"
> >
> >but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
> >to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
> >something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
> >get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
> >and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.
> >
> >tony weeg
> >sr. web applications architect
> >navtrak, inc.
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >www.navtrak.net
> >office 410.548.2337
> >fax 410.860.2337
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
> >
> >
> >Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
> >I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
> >asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
> >pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
> >on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
> >everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
> >it got uninstalled somehow.
> >
> >The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
> >two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
> >IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
> >by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
> >course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.....oh
> >nevermind.
> >
> >--
> >  jon
> >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
> >RRNR> I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties
> >RRNR> you to sites is a real PITA.
> >
> >RRNR> -----Original Message-----
> >RRNR> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >RRNR> Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
> >RRNR> To: CF-Talk
> >RRNR> Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
> >
> >
> >RRNR> Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2
> >
> >RRNR> to 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.
> >
> >RRNR> Don't quote me on that though.
> >
> >RRNR> By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's
> >RRNR> _really_ nice. The performance is much better (still not as good
> >RRNR> as HS+, but
> >RRNR> close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
> >RRNR> Almost. ;)
> >
> >RRNR> ==================================================================
> >RRNR> ======
> >RRNR> ===
> >RRNR> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> >RRNR> (www.mindseye.com)
> >RRNR> Member of Team Macromedia
> >(http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)
> >
> >RRNR> Email    : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >RRNR> Blog     : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
> >RRNR> Yahoo IM : morpheus
> >
> >RRNR> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
> > >> To: CF-Talk
> > >> Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade
> > >> Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
> > >>
> > >> Michael Traher
> > >> Systems Manager
> > >> ICLP (London)
> > >> Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
> > >> Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
> > >> To: CF-Talk
> > >> Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
> > >>
> >RRNR> http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/rel
> >RRNR> easeno
> >RRNR> tes_plus.html#new
> >
> >RRNR> ==================================================================
> >RRNR> ======
> >RRNR> ===
> >RRNR> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> >RRNR> (www.mindseye.com)
> >RRNR> Member of Team Macromedia
> >(http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)
> >
> >RRNR> Email    : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >RRNR> Blog     : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
> >RRNR> Yahoo IM : morpheus
> >
> >RRNR> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
> > >> To: CF-Talk
> > >> Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
> > >>
> > >> Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to be
> > >> anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
> > >>
> > >> $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if there
> > >> is nothing new, I wont bother.
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >RRNR>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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