ok, this is wacked, but another developer came over and told me that his view in 
oracle worksheet is different, here you have to actually tell it to commit....arg! i 
was not aware of that, so as soon as i commited the changes to the table, cf showed me 
the correct recordset.

<double sigh>
Thanks for all the suggestions! you guys are the best <grin>
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Steph
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