-Kevin
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From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia sinks on sales news
> IMHO, it still doesn't preclude.
>
> Flash isn't really accessible (unless you are running Windows, and
> Window-Eyes and still things are totally accessible).
> So if _javascript_ is turned off, Flash isn't running anyways and the
> alternative comes up.
> <script src=""> > <noscript> Call a meta refresh or have a link to the accessible
> alternative.</noscript>
> </script>
>
> In reality that more fits in with an accessible site than automatically
> launches a plugin.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Macromedia sinks on sales news
>
>
> > I didn't suggest it had anything to do with Laziness. Again, there are
> > sites that currently make use of Flash, but not _javascript_. If they are
> > required to start using _javascript_ they well decide not to use Flash.
> > Remember that just because using _javascript_ is no big deal to you
> > doesn't mean there aren't company who have internal directives not to
> > use it for their web site for whatever reason.
>
> An example of this is any site that wants to be accessible following WAI
> guidelines. According to the Web Content Accessiblity Guidelines, a site
> must still function with _javascript_ turned off at the browser.
>
> The same guidelines don't preclude the use of Flash though. It only
requires
> that an equivalent non-embedded media experience be offered.
>
> IMO, if it's not drag-drop easy then it's too much work for most
developers.
> Add the development time of a Flash project, the Eolas patent and
subsequent
> workaround time, and the issue of accessibility which many sites are
> required by law to follow, and I think MM's P/E ratio being predicated on
> Flash may be overoptimistic.
>
> OTOH, I'm still excited about the remoting sessions I'll be attending at
> MAX.
>
> -Kevin
>
> _____
>
>
>
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