being a fully licensed copy of the new CRM product, which is awesome in itself,
but even more exciting is the conferencing software included in the new Office
product, that puts MM's Flashcom to shame."
this conf product is just Placewhere rebranded...and a few extra bells + whistles I suppose. Placewhere had Java applets, were these replced in the new M$ version?
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud
The US Action pack also requires you to be a partner, as I am. It is free. All
that required was an exchange of email with the MS regional manager, and a
telephone call.
The main difference between the MS program and the MM reseller programs is that
MM requires a substantial up front payment to become a reseller.
I have been able to fully utilize the promotional materials and presentations
accompanying the action pack from MS to assist in training customers, and it has
really enhanced my sales of MS server products. You will receive enough CD-ROM
based presentations to satisfy most any presentation need. Another benefit is
being able to offer MS software through License Online, where your customer can
purchase MS products, (as well as several other products) at attractive
discounts, all very legitimate. You are also given access to their mass mail
(spam?) marketing list to promote your own services as well as the availability
of MS products through you.
To me the most exciting new product from MS is actually two products, the first
being a fully licensed copy of the new CRM product, which is awesome in itself,
but even more exciting is the conferencing software included in the new Office
product, that puts MM's Flashcom to shame.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud
| In Australia the Microsoft Action Pack is available only to registered
| partners. You cannot legally buy the US $299 deal and use it in Australia.
| The Action pack is intended to allow the Microsoft Sales Partners to have
| fully legit copies of all the latest software, in production environments
| (but not web sites) running their businesses on the latest stuff, in order
| to be fully conversant with it when they come to talk to potential
| customers. It was a clever way to make it more worthwhile for partners to
| get the software legitimately than the common practice prevailing before the
| action pack was released - namely buy a copy for inventory or for customer
| use and make dodgy copies before delivering to customers.
|
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| It's a splendid idea I think, because suddenly, all those dealers,
| resellers, recommenders had not only legal copies of the products they
| normally sell, but the other things they wouldn't normally sell too. Enough
| to run a small business on. (Larger businesses could afford to buy their own
| copies of software, Microsoft reasons).
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|
| I think this is a logic that could prove profitable for Macromedia too. I
| develop web sites but every time a new version of software comes out, I have
| to pay to buy full copies of everything (Unless I happen to fluke a freebie
| at a CFUG meeting!!). If MM want us all to be selling and recommending
| their products, what better way than to make sure we're all using the
| latest versions of everything? They wouldn't have to do it for free, or
| even near-free, as Microsoft has proved. But the MS Action Pack gives the
| equivalent of the entire business product line for A$500 a year.
|
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| How many of us were reluctant to update to MX2004 products because of the
| expense, and the fact that we'd only recently bought MX? How are we all
| supposed to talk confidently about MX2004 if we're only using MX ourselves?
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|
| My suggestion? Macromedia start having NFR software available to legit
| dealers/resellers. At the moment (as I understand it) it's only available
| to partners, who have to pay some thousands of bucks to be partners. Makes
| it right out of the ballpark of us small shops. I'm only a one-man business.
| I can't afford to pay thousands of dollars for anything, no matter how
| desirable. Specially not if it's going to be out of date in a year, as
| all software will.
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| Cheers,
|
| Michael Kear
|
| Windsor, NSW, Australia
|
| AFP Webworks.
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:27 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud
|
|
|
| Actually, the Microsoft Action Pack Subscription is legit. For $299 you get
| a whole boatload of software, along with 10 licenses (or 10 CAL's for server
| products). The catch is that it's only "licensed" for 12 months. In all,
| it's a good deal, sometimes made even better...I got mine for $99 after a
| $200 "coupon".
|
| Pete
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Peter Tilbrook
| To: CF-Talk
| Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM
| Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud
|
| It staggers me that there are people in the world who will attempt to rob
| others by cleverly imitating a bank/credit unions email to attempt to gain
| access to someones funds. They usually attempt this with cleverly crafted
| "HTML" email messages. Microsoft has also fallen victim to this atttempt
| at
| validity by the look of a message alone.
|
| I've received a few of these lately.
|
| Keep in mind it is highly unlikely that your own bank would ever send you
| something via email that would ever ask you for personal information (they
| would more than likely have it already). In fact your bank would not even
| really need to know your email address at all.
|
| Whenever I receive these bogus messages, and I have received several, I
| forward them to the Australia Federal Police in their entirety. You should
| do the same to your respective law enforcers (eg: FBI).
|
| PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering
| $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their "Partner" program. It
| looks
| legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal.
|
| Peter Tilbrook
| ColdFusion Applications Developer
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